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There was also an option to ignore the thread, without even pressing a button! Anyway, sign me up for Peterborough -> Doncaster in an 801.

100 Pennies doesn't sound like much. 1 Pound sounds like more. Looking at these changes individually and on paper, it's not much. However,...

It's not just liveries/scenarios, though. There's a lot of changes. Imo it's more justified than any other - and nobody really complained about...

Rush Hour is good enough as it is - but when it was first revealled they did it far too early, and over-promised. The main offenders: Reveal:...

Imo, it (and everything else) combined does. On paper it's a whole load of minor changes with a couple of new features - but in practise it will...

I wouldn't be surprised if that changes, tbqh. Rivet may take a chance to use the 801 for EDN. Flying Scotsman will probably just be a newer (and...

Just to throw ¢2 on this; Anyone who uses either of these tools - myself included - will be bouncing off the walls in excitement at these. On...

They should be more up-front yes, but games are only announced when they're ready to be. They could easily just announce TSW5, 6 and beyond today...

Spot on. And what of us who just want to drive the trains and get on with life? Are we "TSW4 crowd" - which seems like an attempt to just...

The issue with TSW4 is more that it's only a year after TSW3. TSW4 is justified for a new release - TSW3, in hindsight and comparison, wasn't.

"TSW4 crowd" meaning...?

You're the one ignoring the meaning of words to further your arguement, though.

Running with that analogy: Lie - "I don't have a mistress" [I do have a mistress] Change - "I do have a mistress" [When I said I didn't - I...

The definition of "lie" says otherwise. Argue with the dictionary. If you say something that isn't true because you don't actually know the truth...

I agree that there is a solid case for it being a free upgrade, particularly if you look at the features individually. If you look at them all...

They tried appeasing the people who stayed on TSW2 with promises, didn't work out. Pretty much the bottom line.

Dovetail will have notified Microsoft well in advance that they were withdrawing TSW4. The (lack of) display on Game Pass' "Leaving Soon" tab will...

TLDR - If plans change, it's not a lie. It's a change.

Still quite large changes, going forward or across the board. And what SP/LD are getting does not count as "minor" - it's a huge change for those...

Most people after a few months knew it wasn't happening - DTG should have just been honest at that point. It left no real room for complaints,...

To be quite frank, Dovetail should have just said when TSW3 came out: "Train Sim World 2 will not be updated, bar some updates after TSW3 launch"...

You should be a politician, spinning things for narratives like that. You quite clearly are just ignoring things that don't interest you, i.e....

It's probably that time of year again, isn't it... Let's do the Annual Bundle/Game Price Breakdown! Let's give Routes double the value of a loco,...

I don't think anyone really bought RH for the passengers alone. If they did, I ask them: what is wrong with you?

Wouldn't remotely hold up in court, especially as it is literally technical limitations causing it. You could write a strongly worded letter to...

Well it isn't anymore.

EA and The COD Studios have massive teams of developers to iron out bugs - and btw FIFA is buggy as hell - and that's something DTG don't. You...

Even a route isn't £24.99, and you want the game for that?

I'm not a child and I do know obvious laws mate. The only thing from RH that is really missing is RH Passengers on BML, which is absent due to...

The tail end of this year is going to be hellish for the bank... CoD MWIII, FC24, TSW4 and Cities Skylines II. *gulp* For that reason alone I'm...

Flying Scotsman is a TSW4 DLC and Free Roam is a TSW4 feature.

If they're making this all just on lunch breaks I'm impressed.

So whenever a developer runs into Technical Issues or Development Issues, they're breaking the law...? Noted.

You can easily translate their post to "oh here come the people I disagree with who just HAVE to share their opinion" and it still holds the same...

The minor updates that James / Daisy have worked on are coming with TSW4. Nothing major.

You're literally complaining in this post about their opinions. Labelling them (us) "DTG defenders" implies it's a bad thing.

BOP :D

In all seriousness: If you are unhappy with yet another TSW game, or just simply don't want it - don't buy it. It's incredibly ironic that TSW4...

GTF.

Clearly coming in at launch but sure.

When TSW4 was leaked I was incredibly sceptical about it, especially only a year after TSW3, which was fairly underwhelming imo. Now I'm...

And ECMLS would take the same effort as the three routes combined. Not really practical, that.

Wasn't offering it.

In the mold of Holiday Express it would be an interesting concept. A Lego railway with Lego people going on/off trains would be amazing- Or maybe...

Didn't say it was "my" forum but you can believe what you want.

Search "ECML", toggle "Suggestions" and see how much comes up. Hint: a lot.

Nothing to do with how long you've been here. Coming out with that comment (when, to be clear, I have in numerous threads admitted TSW4 is coming...

It is the case in some people's cases - you can tell by their mannerisms. Not most people, though. Just a few.

The TSW3 felt really disappointing because it was overhyped because, well, there wasn't much going for it. There wasn't anything particularly bad...