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You've nailed it, Vern. That's what I wanted to say in my OP, but didn't. If not now, when is the question. TSW5,6? I wonder if JT have addressed...

If you haven't shopped already, go for Yorkshire Gold. If your market has an " International " aisle, that's where you'll find it. The regular...

Yes the problem is that if DTG proxies try to answer questions aimed at the stream, DTG might feel that they don't need to answer in the stream or...

Ah yes, nothing like a cup of Yorkshire. If only Americans had learned how to make tea. But blame Lord North and George III for that.

I'm sticking with the deluxe option, even though the ECML route sounds less and less interesting. As has been mentioned, an earlier BR era with...

As the OP used the word " metaverse " at least 3 times, being a baby boomer rather than gen X,Y or whatever, I looked it up. Then my head started...

There can't be a loyalty discount if everyone gets it, even if they've never bought a DTG product before in their life. Plus it's not the same...

There really are no " loyalty discounts ". The pre-order prices, early access and the other come-ons are just part of a marketing strategy to...

Yes I agree. The screenshots are some of the best I've seen in the game. Really looking forward to driving the 101 on this route. One of my...

??? How have they extended NYT?

I see the difference. I'm on Steam and it releases at 1700 UTC ( 1800 BST) which is 10am PDT. Microsoft and Sony are earlier, I guess.

More like 10 am PDT, I think.

Yes, I meant that, although I abhor personal attacks, I'm sure you'd agree that it would be unrealistic to expect everyone to think that way on a...

Yes, meant as gentle humor although you can bet your shiny new boots that those posts will show up later this week. ;) As for my other questions,...

Thanks for that. Ooh, I'm really like looking forward to like those like decals. Sounds really cool. Will they be like stickers or something that...

Well, I suppose we'll get the usual breathless posts from the kiddies on the 21st and 26th: When's it coming in ( insert location)? It's 5...

Yes, I will wait until the routes are on my machine to make a judgement, but I'm not at all hopeful. Except for a few exceptions, DTG have not...

The big advantage of early access is that you can get familiar with the 3 new routes, even though the traffic will not be all there. This will...

A " small " patch is promised for this route, but what it contains is not specified. Overall, I think you're correct. Most of the older routes are...

It is about the facts though, isn't it? The OP has a fairly long history of ignoring the facts surrounding bugs and other issues with routes and...

I agree. His posts are amusing to me, but I can see how they might irritate some people. And this thread is only going to go from bad to worse. (...

Oh dear, Vern, you're really in the doghouse now. :D On the other hand, although I agree that this poster is way out in left field, I look to him...

Well, we know that none of these are 3rd party releases, so one is likely to be a modern day freight route and the other will probably swing back...

I'm waiting for a TSW rookie to post " Excuse me but I heard that the Antelope Line included some freight content, but it doesn't appear on my...

Yes, I also prefer the daytime TOD4 lighting, though I agree that it needs to be adjusted downwards for daylight and I personally could willingly...

Yes, the Morrisville Yard was an unfortunate omission in NYT, and the same mistake has been made by not including the LATC Yard in AVL. It makes...

I doubt that any US fans will have been satisfied with the explanations given for the omissions from AVL. The fact that the decisions will be "...

Ooh, you must have the inside track with DTG. Such an immediate response! I've been waiting years. ;)

Yes cake is a very good analogy. Back in 1765, a very young Marie Antoinette happened upon a group of people playing TSW3. Not being fond of...

The basic question has not been answered. If you're going to release a mixed traffic route, you should include a passenger and a freight loco...

Yes many of us do, but what about new players. Not having a freight layer for first timers seems short sighted to me. And why is the LATC freight...

I'd like to see the " Hiawatha " between Chicago and Milwaukee. About 90 miles 5 stops, Amtrak, commuter traffic and freight. Would need a...

Well, the startup procedure ( if you can call it that ) tells me all I need to know about driving the 800x, viz: reverser to forward, apply power....

Be mindful that the Acela is/was a separate purchase.

Seems like there's a whole lot of stuff we dont get about this route. It's very reminiscent of NYT, a lot of things left out for reasons that...

Well, if you're on PC, Steam at least has about half a dozen sales each year and the older routes often have deep discounts. Most of us wait for...

As I said before somewhere, maybe they think their strategy of requiring ownership of previous routes will lead to new purchases of CJP, SH and...

It's never been publicly announced as official policy, but, since Rush Hour, that's been the norm and players have apparently accepted it with...

Well, gotta take issue with you here, Vern. Sometimes repeating yourself to the point of being annoying can be an effective strategy. I can think...

Really, without PTC, Metrolink doesn't have a modern safety system. Despite what was said about complexity, it really should be part of any...

Absolutely. And I'm a player who spends most of the time outside the cab, leaping ahead or exploring the environment, sometimes on foot. So the...

Exactly my point. Take a drive on SPG or BML and then drive on BCC or Cathcart. See the difference? I think the streamers are just plain...

Well, I pre-ordered the deluxe version and I have the requisite routes, so I guess I'll get the " full monty " with AVL freight. But I have to...

Right, for heaven's sake. Call it what you want, a new game, a revision, an update, whatever. It's a trio of new routes and locos, a plethora of...

If the same people who worked the night lighting on Voralberg and numerous routes in TSW3 did the night lighting for AVL, I think we can safely...

Figures. They are always reluctant to showcase routes at night. Wonder why?

Yes, the more I'm learning about this freight conundrum, the more questionable it becomes. I'll have to watch the full stream to get DTG's...

Of course, but then no one would be encouraged to buy Sherman Hill and/ or Cane Creek, which I suspect might be part of a sale bundle at some...

To give some freight components to those who don't own the layering routes, Sherman Hill and Cane Creek. There are no new freight locos, so you...