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Well, you're the one who said we were whale's.

Same here

Dude please chill, your starting to sound like a Humpback.

You know what, I fully agree with you.

Class 801 and then Flying Scotsman.

Will be making my pre-order in a few days when I have more money, really looking forward to this especially the Flying Scotsman.

Or maybe the total dev time meant that it wasn't going to make it out before Tsw4's launch and therefore makes more sence for it to be a Tsw4...

They confirmed on the stream that there would be freight services (layers presumably) and there will be a layer for the 158.

Looks great, good job guys

YES, YES, YES!!!! Finally a class 800/801!

I'm guessing you've never travelled through area's such as Romford, Chelmsford etc then? I have travelled through those area's on the Geml and I...

If anything I'd say that at the moment the most we could expect from the Geml in Tsw is Liverpool Street - Colchester.

More then twice the length alone makes it significantly more complex/time consuming, then you have to factor in all the heavily built up area's...

Still far more complex overall.

It wouldn't be the first time we've had several routes in short succession that are from roughly the same region, all the uk routes in Southeast...

More likely he's just on holiday somewhere quiet and secluded, not a Tsw leak.

For the next freight route in Tsw, my money is on it being Tehachapi Pass.

Due to there length and complexity, I find it very unlikely that either Marias Pass or Donna Pass will come to Tsw any time soon.

Dovetail Direct stream at 2pm bst, there gonna be announcing some cool new stuff it seems.

Most likely, only 1 day to go until we find out for sure.

Again you must have seen wrong, Metrolink have absolutely NO Chargers in their fleet whatsoever.

A massive timetable update like the one they are currently doing takes a long time to develop and test.

And if Dtg do indeed announce Tsw4 tomorrow, what would your reaction be then?

Well I'm afraid to tell you that you've seen wrong, you maybe saw a Amtrak Pacific Surfliner Charger as they do operate in Los Angeles but...

Metrolink use F125's, not Chargers.

The stream time really doesn't mean anything in regards to what countries the new routes will be set in.

That's because Tsc is a much easier game to develop then Tsw is.

Your forgetting that there are several UK loco dlc's that are from the BR era, class 20, class 31, class 40 etc.

OK fair point, but every route besides that one is 1:1.

It's been an open secret for a little while now that we're getting an Austrian and it's coming from Dtg, not a third party.

The map/routes are already 1:1 scale.

Has to be Azuma's for me.

Yes I know but what I mean is if they did the Orange County line first, they'd have to model new stock for both Metrolink and Amtrak together...

But doing the Surfliner and/or Orange County line would require multiple new pieces of rolling stock to be made from scratch. If we were to get...

They need better tables and WiFi on all units as well as better seats.

Imo the class 700 (irl) is the perfect example of a train that is good but could be so much better.

I wouldn't worry too much, we already have the 387 and 700 so we'd only need the 800/801 and we'd have the vast majority of services that operate.

I think they mean building a train sim with modern technology, not the routes themselves being modern.

I'm not a fan of US freight routes either but I do remember seeing numerous requests for Cajon Pass in the suggestion forum.

Yes, several times.

I just hope we really are getting a section of the ECML, it has certainly been a long time coming.

But having Los Angeles and Metrolink in Tsw could be a gateway to eventually having the Pacific Surfliner.

Is there a uk route?

I've never had a crash on this route, IoW 2022 has always worked fine for me.

King's Cross - Peterborough would be the most logical choice imo as we already have a few trains in Tsw that operate along that section, class...

I hope not, that would be a massive waste of potential especially where the Intercity services are concerned.

Originally the Tsc version was King's Cross - Peterborough too.

King's Cross - Peterborough is much more likely.

Perhaps the ICE-T could come later as a loco dlc like how the class 700 did on Sehs.

Class 91 only operates on the Ecml.