And how many months away is that?
I have to disagree with you on IOW 22 and Edinburgh Glasgow. The fictional livery is a deal breaker for me. I absolutely refuse to drive that...
I disagree. I'm not sure why, but I've always preferred BML. I've always had a strange relationship with SEHS. When it first came out in TSW2 I...
It is a great route. Too bad it crashes half the time so I can't play it anywhere near as much as I want to.
A voice is still better than no voice in my opinion.
Shame. I love the voice on the LNER 800s. Much better than the one I'm used to on the GWR sets. When Edinburgh Glasgow released I remember...
Honestly my only real problem with Edinburgh- Glasgow is the running sounds, especially in the cab. I know it's quieter than at launch, but it...
Really looking forward to the upcoming A3. It'll be very interesting seeing the performance of the Scotsman on Crewe- Liverpool, and also the...
It's still probably at least a year before they're in service though. I can't see a WCML happening so soon after ECML. They'd wanna save it for...
I can imagine a perfect gameplay add on to this route would be Doncaster to Leeds with the Class 91. They still run that way, so Leeds to...
The 158 is also much faster, so it makes much better use of it's little bit extra. I love them both though don't get me wrong.
Won't happen but I think the LNER K4 is a much better choice. The class was designed specifically for the West Highland line, and the sole...
Ermmm the 158 would like to have a word... I always enjoy a 156 thrash though. They sound epic when really opened up and I'm doubtful Rivet could...
Nahh no way. Best part of the valleys is Abercynon to Merthyr. You truly feel like you're in, well, a valley there. I know a lot of it is my local...
I think Transpennine have some services that way nowadays. And there's still a healthy amount of services. LNER have a half hourly service in each...
That's true. Either way including Hull Trains wouldn't add anything to this route apart from a new livery.
I suppose it makes sense. Hull Trains is owned by the same company as GWR, and if DTG are currently unable to reacquire that licence there's...
Will sound still come through the speakers if you're wearing headphones? I despise games that use the speakers for audio. I find it breaks the...
It indeed is. As someone who lives close to Cardiff, I'd love that as a route. Unfortunately I can't see it happening owing to DTG not being able...
I'm assuming you mean Mallaig. The Oban line is a separate branch of the West Highland line starting at Crianlarich. Not to mention it would take...
Newark is roughly halfway between Lincoln and Nottingham. If they did Lincoln to Nottingham in it's entirety (by no means a difficult route to do)...
That's the other problem. Matt said in the roadmap stream they're unwilling to do King's Cross to Peterborough owing to it's length and...
That does seem unusual. It's quite bold and prominent too. It doesn't make sense for them to call it an extension when it's not extending anything.
I wasn't able to catch the stream last night, was there any new information given on the route? Or why it stops at Doncaster instead of York?
No it's not. All the Lincoln services are five cars.
If they were to do a WCML South I feel it's the most likely place. I can't see them going all the way to Birmingham, and Watford Junction is...
Have to agree, the rebuilt Merchant Navy's are beautiful. A lot nicer than the unrebuilt Bulleid Pacifics.
Last month I was in Scotland and North West England, and I had the privilege of seeing and riding Class 397s for the first time. What beautiful...
Well seeing as Doncaster is the end point of this route, that shouldn't matter for the game. I'm surprised LNER actually do that regularly. I...
1. Why does ECML stop at Doncaster? York would have been a far more satisfying end point, and while it makes the route even longer, there aren't...
I doubt that, considering it was pre recorded. There's no way someone at DTG wouldn't have noticed that slip up. They're more incompetent than I...
The 158 will be drivable between Grantham and Peterborough. I don't really see what people are worrying about. We saw the five car version, and...
I own it on so many consoles I've lost track. It was a huge part of my early adolescence, and I always find myself coming back to it now and...
I won't dispute that. If they were gonna do the WCML I'd be fine with anything North of Preston, provided it's a decent length. Preston to...
The 801 is technically electric only, it just has one engine to be used as a sort of limp home mode. I doubt there'll be any cause to use it apart...
You beat me by one minute. But yeah they'll probably give us WCML but the most boring bit, i.e. Milton Keynes to Crewe.
I'm irritated because I have all the same issues with TSW4 as everyone else on this thread. Everyone is right to be criticising DTG right now....
King's Cross to Peterborough would still be a nice long high speed stretch, which DTG seemed to be more interested in. Class 91s are still in...
It really does feel like DTG missed an open goal deciding to do this portion of the ECML. They had so many of the necessary pieces to do a truly...
Hold on, where was it said Flying Scotsman wasn't available day one?
York to Northallerton is far worse. This section at least has Stoke bank, legendary in railway history.
Not as much as if the men had won a tournament. They still all bang on about 1966, imagine if they won a European Championship or World Cup in...
Neither Oxenholme nor Penrith are in Scotland. Do you mean Carlisle to Glasgow?
No, York to Newcastle is by far and away the dullest. Very few stations, and the first section is a mind numbingly dull straight line. King's...
I enjoy LGV quite a bit actually. It's the only truly high speed route in the game, and the TGV is great fun. Scenery is probably my least...
Presumably that would mean Peterborough to York, which is far from the most interesting portion of the ECML regardless of the time period.
Microsoft Train Simulator is another.
The "facts" also say modern routes sell better. Pretty sure I remember Matt saying as much on stream. Older routes don't have as much mass appeal....
Are we seriously having this debate yet again? People will always moan no matter what period a route is set in. You'll moan if it's modern and...
It's all completely subjective. For your information I have been over the S & C, I just don't think good scenery equals good gameplay. I'd rather...
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