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I didn't suggest that it was built from the ground up. However, I also heard on the stream that DTG (claim to) have put a lot of work into it. So...

That's your value judgement. But you don't actually know what was involved (neither do I).

I wonder if DTG are learning how to make (much) better routes, so the state-of-the-art is different from where it was just a few years ago. It...

Put your megaphones down. This argument is unwinnable.

This thread has truly jumped the shark now, with the quoted post summing up the total pseudo-babblling-meta-nonsense people are spouting. You are...

Glad you're enjoying it so far.

I’m going to be somewhere subtropical next week, so I’ll raise a glass to you all when it hits.

Oh dear. Whipping yourselves up into a frenzy now won't change anything. Save your energy, wait to see what lands and then launch forth with the...

I see what you're saying but consoles not having the latest build is not the same as saying it is the same version as what was seen on the stream,...

This is all conjecture though. And, to be pedantic for a moment, if the stream was done on a PC, then that build definitely won't be shipped on...

Yeah, I'm a lot more inclined to believe that it was more c*ck-up than conspiracy.* * - I hope the use of this aphorism is ok, although the forum...

My cat hates bagpipes! When I was watching the beginning of the stream, she freaked out and was desperately trying to get out of the room!

I agree, they have a problem with consistency.

This is where I respectfully part company with comments like this. Ultimately, it's up to them if they publish or not. Wait and see what happens,...

Ok, let\s calm down. coldo121, your post last night came across as if you expected an instant response to all the feedback and the fact that it...

This?

To be fair to Matt, driving, thinking about what to say and talking isn't easy. I can be exchanging trivialities at home and the next thing I know...

Yes, the stream itself was a bit of a disaster because it raised a lot more questions than it answered. It’s their main tool for generating...

I've just finished watching the stream. I'm in two minds. The 170 seems good but I am disappointed with quite a lot of the scenery and the general...

Quit while you're behind. You're making yourself look silly.

I agree on BCC. It's my local route and I run along the canal next to it quite a lot, so I'm positively predisposed to it but, when I do play it,...

Totally agree with both of these points. I disabled the vibration almost immediately!

I've been playing on XBX since July. On the whole, it's a really good experience. There are some issues, which are covered above - mainly...

That's their opinion. We don't have to agree with it but, equally, why quote from someone else's post and sneer at them with a possibly misguided...

A fascinating escape into the culinary world and the dangers of food poisoning, but I don't know what it has to do with what the person you quoted...

I wasn’t calling anyone a [EDIT - Jan Language], it’s an English aphorism! My point was more general anyway, it was about it being ok for people...

I don't tend to see the issues described on my XBX. I get the occasional very short freeze (one of the SEHS HS1 tunnels is fairly consistent) but...

That's fair. All I was trying to say - perhaps not as constructively as I should have - is that the route doesn't seem to be fundamentally bugged...

I don't think that's true. For me, I'm still somewhat stunned at some of the mean-spirited rhetoric that gets expressed over and over and over and...

Works just fine on a console. Perhaps we should critique all of the problems with your PC builds/setups? ;-)

Welcome and well said. [EDIT - Jan Language] If you're enjoying it, that has to be the main thing.

(Guess) Have you got any mods installed? I remember Dad Rail saying that he had issues because of that.

Stealth train!

Yes, this is fair. I don't particularly enjoy BPO. I don't know why, I just don't. I can appreciate the effort that has gone into it but it's...

Fair enough but I doubt that it's worth £22.50 to you either then. That's also my point.

That's completely arbitrary! I suspect that most people who say they would have paid £22.50 but won't pay £25 are more interested in making some...

Why was the train slowing down with the power handle at maximum on a slight downward gradient?

Where's this survey people are talking about?

For the sake of your blood pressure, don't worry about TSW5 yet. If they announce it on Sunday, then feel free to go apoplectic if that really is...

I appreciate your reply and I have (now) read the pinned thread. I am slightly confused though because bugs do seem to get discussed in feedback...

DTG Alex Can someone at least explain why this has been moved, please? I don't think that's an unreasonable question to ask. Where's the...

One of the worst things about this route is the scourge of the Xbox audio problem, which is particularly bad in this case. Clicks and pops, audio...

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Thank you. But the statement still holds, especially in the context of this thread, regardless of its (false)...

But you’re still here anyway! The definition of insanity, according to Einstein, is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a...

Yup, that's how software development works in general. I was in a meeting yesterday which proves that (rolls eyes)!

That's true for the vast majority of, if not all, software but the suggestion that all known bugs could/should be fixed is rather naive. It's a...

I have sympathy with this view. Piracy is not a victimless crime. Someone has to pay for it, which will start with the consumer and, if the price...

That's just silly. I think - hope - you're being (slightly) sarcastic but, for something that is so worthless, you seem to spend an awful lot of...

I suspect I've missed something, although I did see a reference to Denuvo earlier, but what's your point? (I'm genuinely interested, I'm not...