Route 1993 Central Line Ealing Broadway - Epping

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  1. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    INTRODUCTION
    Today I'll be suggesting a route operated by the London underground owned by TFL this route would be over 1 hour and 5 minutes long and would have over 20 miles of track and would also serve 32 stations in total.


    The Route
    -This route is 20 miles long
    -This route has 32 stations in total
    -This route is 1 hour and 5 minutes long





    ROLLING STOCK


    1992 STOCK
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    The 1992 stock manufactured by BREL/ABB from 1991-1994 a 85 of these 8 car units were built and 85 remain in service the maximum speed of this train is 62 mph (100 km/h) and the saftey systems implemented are ATO and ATP.





    -Ealing Broadway
    -West Acton
    -North Acton
    -East Acton
    -White City
    -Shepherd's Bush
    -Holland Park
    -Notting Hill Gate
    -Queensway
    -Lancaster Gate
    -Marble Arch
    -Bond Street
    -Oxford Circus
    -Tottenham Court Road
    -Holborn
    -Chancery Lane
    -St. Paul's
    -Bank
    -Liverpool Street
    -Bethnal Green
    -Mile End
    -Stratford
    -Leyton
    -Leytonstone
    -Snaresbrook
    -South Woodford
    -Woodford
    -Buckhurst Hill
    -Loughton
    -Debden
    -Theydon Bois
    -Epping




    AI

    -AI 166 at Ealing Broadway
    -AI 43 at Ealing Broadway


    SCENARIOS


    -Central line delays
    Operate this Central line from Epping to Ealing Broadway expect traffic down the line


    -Busy days on the Central line
    Drive this Central line from Ealing Broadway to Epping expect traffic down the line as it is busier than usual


    -Winter evenings
    Drive this Central line from Epping to Ealing Broadway there are minor delays due to the snow


    -A rainy day on the Central line
    Drive this Central line from Ealing Broadway there are minor delays due to the rain


    DEPOTS

    -White City depot
    -Ruislip depot




    CONCLUSION

    This would be a good London underground route with very frequent trains anyway thanks for reading this suggestion hope you like it feel free to comment on what you think.
     
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  2. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    I have been inactive of the forums and the game for a while but for this being the first thing I have seen in ages I am very happy to agree and I would love for this to come into the game, another LU route would be lovely and this would be perfect! But just a pointer, if this would be set for nowadays then the 43 at Ealing Broadway wouldn't really work, and ATO cold be considered as a new feature for the game. But This is a really good suggestion
     
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  3. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    no point in ato, would be very boring only opening and closing doors to be fair
     
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  4. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Yea i agree it would be very boring good thing the central line has coded manual
     
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  5. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Thank you i thought that having the central line would be interesting in tsw4
     
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  6. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, if this route comes with ATO, this route would turn boring really quickly which is why it has been suggested in manual :)
     
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  7. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion, I like the amount of detail you put into these suggestions, I would like to see another LU line in the game in the future, whether it is this or the Metropolitan Line, I don't care which comes first :)
     
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  8. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    The metropolitan line would be a good route as well and im glad you like my suggestions :)
     
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  9. fabdiva

    fabdiva Well-Known Member

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    ATO is the problem. Coded Manual is only a thing at the extremities.
     
  10. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Good call. This route would then give us the correct AI for Ealing Broadway LU traffic which currently uses BKL 72 stock, which although better than nothing, is not correct.
     
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  11. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Yes although coded manual is used for that dtg could still use it or base the route in 1993 when ATO wasn't a problem and was manually operated or just make it manual only operated
     
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  12. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

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    I just like the thought as ATO being a cool feature tbh, and if it is ever to be added I always say I want them to add both ATO and manual driving since if you want you can do both, but I do agree it would be very boring if it was just only ATO operated :)
     
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  13. joseph.gov.uk

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    London Underground is not owned by TfL Rail. TfL Rail was what is now the Elizabeth Line on the GEML and GWML.
     
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  14. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Yes thanks for the correction I thought tfl had rail next thanks for the correction
     
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  15. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Seeing all these ATO routes makes me worried some day every route will have ATO and drivers will be made redundant. :o :(
     
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  16. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Yea but at least London Overground will be manually operated same with mainline trains even though ATO is good for train frequency it is nice to see the London underground manually operated
     
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  17. joffonon#1689

    joffonon#1689 Well-Known Member

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    I'd welcome the Central Line, but would want the whole line to West Ruislip and including the Hainault loop. Could also make it an historic route with the old 1962 Stock and the Epping to Ongar branch line added.
     
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  19. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I prefer when they base routes off the current day
     
  20. steamenthusiast1

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    Is there a reason that the line to West Ruislip and the Hainault Loop have not been included on the list of stations
     
  21. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    +10 on this.
    Fond memories of travelling out to Ongar on a pub crawl in the early 80’s. The only time I was ever issued a paper ticket at a London Underground booking office! Not so fond the long journey back into central London, the unfortunate side effect of pub crawls being the need to visit the loo at frequent intervals once the beer runs through.

    The 1962 stock was quite iconic and IMHO would make for a much better driving experience than more modern trains with ATO.
     
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  22. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

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    The 1962 Stock still runs today forming the Central Line's Rail Adhesion Train, so hopefully if this was made an accurate sound set would be depicted.
     
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  23. steamenthusiast1

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    If the setting was instead before 1994 (When the Ongar branch closed) you would have a longer line and a train without ATO. You would also still have the same rest of the line.
     
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  24. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    The line is spectacular. The route makes this one of the best Underground lines and it would be amazing in a train game. I so not understand why they cannot add the London Underground routes from Train Simulator
     
  25. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Because they don't just recreate routes from TSC in TSW.

    If they did, then most routes that have appeared in Train Simulator would be here already.
     
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  26. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    The Central Line terminates at the following destinations everyday: Hainault, Epping, Loughton, Newbury Park, Woodford, North Acton, White City, Ealing Broadway, Northolt, Ruislip Gardens. They occasionally terminate at Leytonstone, Liverpool Street and Marble Arch. This would be a perfect route as we need to preserve the 1992 stock and the route offers such great variation
     
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  27. MRFS

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    Hmmmmm..... I'd like to do the Central with '62 stock and with the boxes open. I think I have enough information to hand and behind me to do almost any day from 14th December 1947 to 17th February 1995. Especially White City.

    Much as I'd really like to do it, I'm not sure a vintage tube route would sell, even with all the signalling/WTT/TTN information I have that could get it right.
     
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  28. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I would rather have the modern day Central Line. They could always put the previous trains as an add on for the route
     
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    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    By the way, trains from Epping typically terminate at West Ruislip during the day and trains from Hainault terminate at Ealing Broadway westbound. During peak times, the destination of the trains vary. The line is incredible and also offers a shuttle service and would offer such incredible variation
     
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    Yes - I've virtually every WTT from 1947 for the Central.
     
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  31. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    Will it be possible to create this route in the game? It is incredible and offers such great variation
     
  32. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I would rather that it gets set in the modern time. I am desperate for another London Underground route to feature in this train game. The District and Central line would be the best in this game
     
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    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to repost on this forums thread to discuss the depots. The depots include Hainault, White City and Ruislip depot. It would compliment the GWE at Ealing Broadway aswell. I hope this thread gains views as it has been written really well and I want others to have an insight on the Central line.
     
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  34. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    If the route can end at Ealing Broadway, it'd be a good excuse to also remaster GWE.
     
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  35. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I am assuming that they would only do Hainault to Ealing Broadway but that would be most certainly fine by me as it still covers a large amount of stations and distance. Having the full route would be incredible.
     
  36. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    That would also make it easier to create the Eliza line if they ever had plans to do so. It alls has a positive domino effect
     
  37. steamenthusiast1

    steamenthusiast1 Member

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    finlayl122528 is all you do post on LU and LO route suggestions
     
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  38. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I also post on routes that have areas which are relatively popular or that are quite close to me. I only post on routes that are in London. My favourite network is the TFL network so that is why I mainly choose to post on them
     
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    steamenthusiast1 Member

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    I mean you literally post on 5 diffrent ones every day and you drag up really old threads.
     
  40. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I like to add to the discussion.
     
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    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    The Central line is 46 miles long including all the branches. We would need all the branches in TSW4 as the destinations vary.
     
  42. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    A 1993-1995 version would be excellent as that's when the 1962 and 1992 stock shared services and long before ATO was introduced. Would be nice to have a choice of timetables, one before 92 stock was introduced, a transition timetable and a post 1995 one with just the new stock.
     
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  43. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I would particularly enjoy the post 1995 route. I personally would love it with ATO but I understand why people may disagree.
     
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  44. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    Maybe if there was the choice of driving manually or ATO it would appease everybody. I sometimes just enjoy the feeling of traveling as I'm stuck at home due to a disability, so I often sit up front in the "secondman's seat", sometimes for familiarisation when I get a new route, sometimes just because it's therapeutic.
     
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  45. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    That is not easy to announce. I also really enjoy the route visuals sometimes. I prefer the driving experience but I think a route like the Central line would be incredible for that particular concept aswell. I am sorry to hear that you spend the majority of your time at home and I hope that you keep entertained through simulation games. Let me know if there is anything you would like me to help with or something we could discuss.
     
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  46. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I am hoping that our dream simulation game route comes true in the nearby future. We have got a roadmpa coming soon which I am really excited about. It feels like we have been waiting for years but that is probably my excitement getting the better of me. I am hoping that we receive and incredible London route.
     
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    “This train terminates at… Ealing Broadway!”
    - this is etched in to my brain forever..!
     
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  48. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    It is am incredible announcement. It would be sad when they replace the iconic announcements when they introduce the refurbished stock.
     
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  49. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    That's very kind of you. When it happened I decided to dedicate my spare time to setting-up a database for post-steam traction, a web-based version of the old ABC guides but with much more information. I'm 3 years in and have years of work ahead of me but I needed a long-term focus and I'm really enjoying learning all about the railway's recent history in the process.
     
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  50. finlayl122528

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    I hope that it becomes successful. Receiving a great route would make us all happy.
     
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