313 Achievements????

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  1. ehz0689

    ehz0689 Active Member

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    I thought Nat said Xbox will not have any issues with achievements with future releases? Where are the ones from the 313?
     
  2. BBIAJ

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    It took over 24 hours last time there was a locomotive DLC add-on for the achievements to appear (London Underground 1938 Stock EMU/DB BR 187), hopefully DTG Natster can look into getting this resolved within hours rather than days.
     
  3. ehz0689

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    this wasn't a problem until the last two loco dlc were released
     
  4. BBIAJ

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    It's happened previously before then, but was resolved within hours of the DLC being released on the day, for a recent route.
     
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    Yeah nothing here. Someone needs to flip the switch.
     
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    It’s Terrible I’m waiting for it
     
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  8. DTG Natster

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    There won't be any achievements for the 313, for the time being we are only adding in achievements for routes not loco releases.
     
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  9. bobbobberdd

    bobbobberdd Well-Known Member

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    Real disappointment, is there a reason for that?
     
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  10. L89

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    I thought there were no limits on Xbox according to Matt. There are Class 313 achievements on Steam so there naturally should be on Xbox. Shouldn't be held back because of PlayStation trophies situation.

    Please consider adding them in.
     
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  11. whiteleym#4287

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    That's very disappointing, feels like Non Playstation users have also lost out due to the ongoing issues with Sony and Trophies.
     
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  12. DTG Natster

    DTG Natster Community Manager Staff Member

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    This does apply to PC users as well.
     
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    It’s a joke DTG
     
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  14. Task

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    Uhm and what is the reason for that? The 313 achievements already are on Steam. So you will remove them just so PC players don’t have more than the others?
     
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    I dont see a single reason why PC users should suffer because of consoles inability to provide enough achievement slots. Thats unfair for PC users. TBH there need to be a compromise.

    This is a bit of: "My partner is vegetarian but I like to eat meat but now I get forced to leave meat out and only eat vegetarian because my partner thinks its unfair that we dont eat the same stuff."

    Its ridiculous and you know that.
     
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  16. Willowrpe

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    PC version shows achievements for the 313 I have just seen them on the steam achievements list, can I ask what is going on, DTG seem all over the place on this ?
     
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    Agree. Even as a PS user who is holding off buying until trophies are added back in, I wouldn't expect the other platforms to miss out just because of Sony's silly rules.
     
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  19. Willowrpe

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    I agree why should other formats miss out as I own a PC and a Series X alongside my PS5 they should just add them to the formats that can deal with them shame Sony into allowing more
     
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    There are in fact Steam achievements for this release. CL313: Swinging Around Seaford is one of them. 5 total.

    https://steamcommunity.com/stats/1282590/achievements

    This is not fair for Xbox who have an active achievement community and Game Pass quests for achievements.
     
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    Dont blame it on Steam or PC. Blame it on Xbox/Microsoft.
     
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    So what you're saying is we've all just wasted 12 quid on this because if you're an achievement Hunter this wastes your time! I can safely say this decision might cost DTG as I for one won't be wasting any more of my money on loco packs!
     
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  23. hells.high.lord666

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    There are no restrictions on Xbox, just PlayStation. This decis8n could cost DTG dearly as people won't buy loco packs if there's no achievements for them!
     
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    I'm not a trophy hunter but I find it very annoying that Xbox and PC will be held back just because of Sony's policies.

    PS users might not be able to get it - but why should that drag down everyone else?
     
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    The only limitation I have heard of for Xbox achievements is a set gamerscore limit in a given timeframe. This is most likely because of the PlayStation limitation that has caused them to not bother with Xbox achievements.
     
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    When the complete price of an add-on is wasted for you because it doesn't have achievements you should really rethink your priorities.
     
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    Dont get me wrong here: Achievement limitation is a bad bad policy and no company should do that because its a limitation and therefore unnecessary.

    But: If you base your gameplay 100% on achievement hunting only, then imo you are wrong in a Train Simulator.
     
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  28. BBIAJ

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    Was there ever any intention to announce this change of policy, or was the plan all along to hope that we wouldn't notice?
     
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    We got always threaten from DTG on Microsoft with no sales, Sound Looping and Texture and Graphic issue’s
     
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    Hmm yes, because we were "threatened" by Dovetail. And also, Dovetail totally control the sales...
     
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  31. doublefine7

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    I dont think "threatening" someone is neither a professional behaviour nor is it legal. So think about that again.
     
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    I'm quite sure he means treating instead of threatening... ;)

    Back to topic: Disappointment. No Lewes - Eastbourne services, no achievements, no buy for me as I only would have bought it for ECWs variety...
     
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    just to confirm the Steam release of the 313 DOES have achievements as I just unlocked the 313 tutorial achievement "CL313: feeling electric"

    it now brings the question back round as to why no Xbox achievements now!
     
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    Luckily in this case it does not.

    However if this is the policy going forwards then I strongly urge you to reconsider this.

    Just because achievements are unable to be used on Playstation, this is not good enough justification to withdraw them from other platforms.
     
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    Maybe the PC bit is talking about Epic games store? as I doubt that would have achievements ?
     
  36. BBIAJ

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    So which is it then DTG Natster?

    You're telling Xbox users one thing, whilst Steam users are clearly seeing and telling us another.
     
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    Maybe platform based Achievements should be transfered to Mastery ???
     
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    Maybe creating an ingame achievement system replacing or expanding the mastery system would be a compromise.
     
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    No, Playstation games should have Playstation trophies. The Mastery is a nice way to unlock stuff in the game, but it's not the same thing. If you're going to release a console game, you should make the game a proper part of the console experience: trophies, things working as they should, rock solid stability... :D

    Can we not just have the trophies for each loco bundled into its home route? That way you're in the same position as regards the total number of trophy groups, as just not bothering.
     
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    Seems a weird decision considering you’ve previously stated that loco DLC’s already don’t sell well, this decision seems like it’ll only amplify that.

    It’s also concerning that such a significant decision was hidden until after the product released.

    Personally, this, along with other recent ‘developments’ and statements leaves me concerned with the future of TSW, and also leaves me with a lack of confidence in DTG’s vision for TSW.
     
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  43. Willowrpe

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    It seems like one blunder after another at the moment I really hope DTG can sort out these issues
     
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    Well I created a heated discussion
     
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    Heated and necessary. And hopefully useful.
     
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    I can’t see how the PlayStation issue on this which we are all sore about by the way, should have anything to do with Xbox or PC not having them.
     
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    No, it makes no sense. I fully believed that, sooner or later, they would find a solution to the PS trophy issue, we would get all the same trophies reinstated to match PC/XBox and life (and purchsing) would resume as normal. This is a disappointing turn of events.
     
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    I think they are scared of a backlash from PS users for no trophies so they now decide to take them from everyone at least until PS trophies are sorted
     
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