A Request Regarding The Pantos Of The New Ice 3m

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  1. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    Thanks to Matin_TSP we got an early chance to peek into which pantos raise on which selected power system, thanks to his live demonstration of the new content yesterday evening.
    Unfortunately I just had to notice one or 2 mistakes, which I'd love to see amended for more accuracy.

    While it did raise the correct panto for the SNCF 1.5kV system, the SNCF 25kV LGV one unfortunately raised one of the pantos that are fartherst from the center of the unit, which is actually the standard german panto, also used for 25kV in the netherlands. The SNCF 25kV supporting panto is actually the one closest to the center of the unit (note, the SNCF 25kV preset does raise the correct panto, but the SNCF 25kV LGV one does not).

    From a few sources I put together this simple visualization to clarify which system is on which panto:
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    I would also like to mention that in the direction of travel, it always picks the back panto of each pair, which I didn't notice happen for the 1.5kV one (where the front one raised instead). Edit: I tested this personally and for some reason, both 1.5kV pantos raised?

    Side note: when he spawned the 406, the front german panto was raised aswell instead of the back one, which isn't right either.

    DTG Matt do you think you could forward this to the team? It would be really nice to have this being accurate.

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  2. TemporaryAl

    TemporaryAl Active Member

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    Oh...yeah this does need to be fixed but, sweet that they did actually implement the feature! Color me surprised.

    P.S. Looked at the actual video... Aand of course no matter the input it always shows 15kV. Yeah maybe fix that too?
     
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  3. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I was able to test it myself; the systems that raise the 1.5kV pantos make both of them raise, despite only one of them should be up, and while the SCNF 25kV preset raises the correct panto, the one with LGV additionally in the selection name wrongfully raises the DB 15kV/NS 25kV panto instead
    DTG Matt DTG Alex hoping for an acknowledgement
     
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    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    Stupid question, but where is the 3kV panto for Belgium?
     
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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    oops. that I believe is also the one that supports the 1.5kV systems though
     
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    noir Well-Known Member

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    You don't actually need per-system pantographs, you can simply have one pantograph capable of transferring everything from 1.5 kV to 25 kV and deal with differences within the loco components themselves. The only exception is using narrow vs wide pantographs, as some countries require different physical dimensions and shape of them.
     
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    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    yes and no.
    Yes, you technically can use all pantos for all types of current.
    But AC and DC usually also use different materials for contact with the catenary, so you need to pay attention to that too.
     
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