When Stuttgart - Heilbronn was announced, I posted a few suggestions to improve what I feared would be a lacklustre route concept. (Unsurprisingly) All of that apparently was ignored. More surprisingly, it seems literally all of my fears were confirmed. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...the-upcoming-stuttgart-heilbronn-route.93358/ Obviously, I do not think we will get anything the like of what I suggested previously (although it is still as necessary as it was then to make this route worthwhile). So, what do I think can be salvaged? There should be mint and silver n-wagen or Silberlinge coaches mixed in the consists. If you are that desperate for LFR and Mittelwaldbahn sales, then make them layers. But do it. The completely red trains are pretty inaccurate. Also, there should be a blue-beige skin for the 111. They should include a 423 variant for S-Bahn services without the 420. Otherwise, the route will feel more dead than I fear it will anyway. Also, it would just be a re-skin, the interior of the Frankfurt 423 is pretty much accurate. Make sure you use time appropriate rolling stock for the freight services. It is bad enough that most of them will be only 10 km long. Include a non-red livery for the 140. In 2000, not all of them were red. Fix the PIS. The "Folgezüge" section on there is a very recent development. But I actually think the mechanical PIS which you skimped on in LFR would be the proper ones. Make the 111 + dostos and 425 layers independent of MKN. The non-S-Bahn liverys of BRO and HRR would be way more realistic anyway. It is such a desperate plug to get some more sales off an otherwise abandoned DLC. From a technical standpoint, unless you really messed up your coding, it should be no problem whatsoever to have a type of train (so the 111 and the dostos) perform the layer, regardless of variant (so in this case, the Mannheim-Kaiserslautern one). Stop tying to do these blatant cash grabs. For the 111 + dostos layer, add mint green dostos for mixed consists and therefore a more realistic rail scene Some general further ranting: The hell are you doing layering the low entry dostos with the fourth-gen cab car onto a route set in Stuttgart in 2000? The fourth gen cab car did not run there (no, not at all, not on occasions, it never did) before the late 2010s. It barely existed in 2000. Same goes with the low-floor only dosto consists. The low floor wagons except for the cab car were the exception in Stuttgart, and at maximum it was one or two in the entire train. I really don't get it. If you couldn't be bothered to do a proper 2000 rail scene, why didn't you simply set it in ~2010? The main station still was intact then, no construction going on (although you managed that in Groningen too?). Then, you could've re-used all the stock you wanted. The 140 and 111 and n-wagen would still be appropriate, but this time in all-red. The freight cars would have probably been much less of an era-appropriativeness problem. The PIS would have actually been largely appropriate. I would really like to see this route succeed because I'd like to see more Stuttgart content, but I will definitely not buy it in the sloppy state it's apparently in right now. To be honest, I have little hopes this will have any impact of how the route is released (presumably in under two weeks). It is disappointing.
