All Aboard Studios Route- Crewe To Birmingham New Street.

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  1. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    Good Afternoon everyone!
    Hope you are all having a great day, I wanted to come on here and start my own discussion thread for this stunning ambitious route.
    This is one big route they are doing, 52 miles, many many stations, lots of junctions and scenery. Landmark buildings. 3 Major Stations on this route, Crewe, Wolverhampton and ofc Birmingham New Street. 1000s of services as well. Never thought we would get a route like this but here we are not long off it! Hopefully we ain't waiting too long.
    I have done this exact route IRL before when I had to travel from Crewe to Birmingham New Street when I couldn't travel from Shrewsbury to Brum due to the Landslip at Oakengates.
    But many of you here have probs done it IRL. The Scenery going towards Stafford is amazing and we know what Third parties are like with Scenery, they always so above and beyond.
    So many aspects to get super excited with this route, Various speed limit changes, it isn't just 125 with the 390, lots of changes. Talking about the 390 we will have an 1 hour run with the Pendolino! Which is something a lot of us 390 enthusiasts have been wanting. Finally we have got it which is just amazing. So thank you Kezz you probably seen me a lot banging about it a lot on the TSC Discord and DTG one as well. I am just super excited for this.

    So lots of playability for the 390. Now we have the 350, love the fact we are getting 350 sub classes /1, /2 and the /3. I wonder if these will come with better sounds for them I hope as the sounds for the 350 at the moment aren't great as well as the physics for it.
    Getting same as 390 an 1hr run with the 350 which is great!
    Now going onto towards Wolverhampton, will we likely see Oxley Car Depot where they store the 390s? Not sure but knowing third parties they always go beyond customer expectations so I think so.
    Now we finally have the Chase Line in the game which is great as it is such a great Line which runs from Wolverhampton to Walsall/Rugeley Trent Valley, this was suggested sometime ago by TrainGeek08 as I am sure majority of you all have heard about him.
    We are also finally getting Soho depot which should of been in BCC but DTG put a stop it due to development costs though the track and signalling is modelled down there so very happy about that and the screenshots on All Aboard Studios is just amazing and I really can't wait.
    Now I will put the Journey we will be taking and the Speed limits for the 390 as I have gotten these from an Avanti Driver.
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    This is the Crewe to Wolverhampton Section:
    So heading South from Crewe it's 125 on the fast lines going down to 115 around Norton Bridge. Back up to 125 until the approach to Stafford (never worth getting back to 125 though, 60 through Stafford (would be 25 if coming off the fast lines) then up to 90 around Rickerscote. Back up to 125 until the approach to Bushbury Jn where it drops to 110 then 60 then finally 15 for the platforms at Wolverhampton. Slow lines between Crewe and Stafford are 100. Obviously these are all EPS tilting speeds, slower for non tilt obviously.

    This is Wolverhampton to Birmingham New Street Section:
    So it's 15 out of Wolverhampton, then up to 75. Dropping to 60 just before Tipton before going back to 75 again until the 60 on the approach to Sandwell & Dudley. Back to 75 after Sandwell & Dudley but dropping down to 65 just before Smethwick Galton Bridge. Down to 40 entering the North tunnel on approach to New Street then down to 10 for the platforms.

    As you can see lots and lots of speed limits on this. Will be 1000s of playability.
    That is that from me, hope this thread gets the attention and hope you have enjoyed reading it! :)
     
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  2. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    It’s really good to finally get a long route for the 390. Hopefully the route isn’t let down by poor scenery and half a timetable like WCMLS was, but from what we’ve seen so far it doesn’t look like that’ll be the case. Interesting to see how much the speed limits vary, I had no idea that they change so much. Definitely looking forward to this one
     
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    This route looks epic
     
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    How many stations?
     
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    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    It 100% be amazing, I trust these third party developers and from what we have seen it looks absolutely amazing! I honestly can’t wait!
     
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    I hope the trackside foliage is decent also. But looks it from shots so far
     
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    umm around 11 I think it is. So not bad at all.
     
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    Yes do agree, think they have done a lot to New Street as well.
     
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    I just also watched a stream recently and it was pretty decent in the 390. I imagine we can go beyond 110 with tilt enabled.
     
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    I’m a simp for the 390 so it’s refreshing to know we all will get a decent run on it. Also with the 805 loco dlc too, which will increase the traffic on the route. The 807 should layer onto WCML and the Riviera too I should imagine.
     
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    807 is actually made for WCML, not for this route; as this route is set 2019, before 807 existed
     
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    eMAyTeeTee Sorry I got the loco wrong it was the 805 I meant.

    Yeah that would make sense it not being on the route for a 2019 TT, but it’s not like DTG haven’t added loco’s that don’t belong in the correct era before. I still think we could see the 805 on BRM - CRW. A couple of weeks after TSW6 we will know for sure.
     
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    It’s a two mile difference but yeah speed limits would possibly make this slightly interesting
     
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    Nah it's all good. I didn't even realise we had the wrong train number either to be fair
     
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  15. arcsin

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    I believe the line speed on the section between Stafford and Penkridge is 125 MU so the Voyagers should be able to run at 125 as well.
    I do have a concern about the timetable though. The southbound Pendolinos used to have a 12 minute wait at Wolverhampton. Will this be changed for the game? Will the services be split in two? Or will the players just have to wait? A question for the preview stream.
     
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    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    Oh wow really? Thats a new one. Tbh I wouldn’t mind that. It’s quite nice to have a long wait sometimes. I know it’s like 5 minutes now isn’t it
     
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    Yes, it's around 5 minutes now. They used to depart Crewe at xx01 and run non-stop to Wolverhampton. Now they depart Crewe at xx04 and stop at Stafford.
     
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  18. matthewgoddard510

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    Thanks for the info! Never knew that tbh. I find it annoying we ain’t getting the stoke on trent like with it as well. Due to the fact we won’t be able to do the late night services that go via stoke. But it’s no biggie at all
     
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