All License Dtg Tsw2

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  1. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    i saw this on a discord server
    (sorry for the bad quality)
    is this real or not bcs it kinda looks real but i'm an others aren't sure upload_2021-8-1_21-41-33.png upload_2021-8-1_21-41-33.png
     
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  2. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    If it is real then at least i know what types of routes that may come to tsw2
     
  3. formulabee#1362

    formulabee#1362 Well-Known Member

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    It kind of is true in a way. We have operators in game that are featured on the list like BR, Southern and SNCF. In terms of FGW, they did have the license but first turned around and said no, so it is now confined and hidden in in game files
     
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  4. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    OMG - Merseyrail.
    Let it be true.
    Let it be true.
     
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  5. formulabee#1362

    formulabee#1362 Well-Known Member

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    If is True, then some is my favourite toc’s will sim be in game!
     
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  6. Coastway trainspotter

    Coastway trainspotter Well-Known Member

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    Hang on - is the THAMESLINK licence on there :D:D:D ?
     
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  7. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I can see ÖBB and NJ Transit in there. For ÖBB they can do Westbahn Wien Hbf Linz 184 km St Polten is too short
     
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  8. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    indeed and there is also BNSF thats why i don't kinda trust it, Thameslink too bcs it is/was hard to get those
     
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  9. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    indeed, maybe Class 700 then :)
     
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  10. Easilyconfused

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    There isn't an official Discord. Would be useful to know who posted it and where.

    Until it comes from DTG themselves I will treat it with a healthy dose of scepticism since if won't have been the first time somebody has faked a screenshot or posted a "wish" as "fact".
     
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    It’s kinda sketchy since Thameslink is there. BNSF aswell. I hope a dev clears this up
     
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    upload_2021-8-2_21-23-56.png

    It was in the TSW2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor.pak which was part of 4.26 files released on epic.
     
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  13. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Maybe something has been made public that shouldn’t have been :o
     
  14. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    yes ik there isn't one, and i just was asking here if it would be true or not
     
  15. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    problly, but its good to see some license that isn't in the game yet
     
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  16. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    thanks for letting it know! :)
     
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    Via Rail Canada!
     
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  18. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    The list could be a good indicator of what is coming to TSW2 over the next year or so. Take out the names that are already in the game and you are left with some licensors that point to specific routes, and some more general, but with some knowledge, research and thought it may be possible to predict exactly what’s coming before it appears on the roadmap. If it’s real.
     
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    Again :)
     
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  20. simontreanor81

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    The new stuff seems to be:

    Aiken (not sure what this is)
    Avanti West Coast
    BNSF
    First Great Western (if distinct from GWR)
    Freightliner
    Grand Central
    Great Northern
    HVV (presumably Hamburg)
    Merseyrail
    NJ Transit
    OEBB
    ONE (pink containers)
    Railway Museum
    Thameslink
    Thurbo
    VIA Rail

    (Gatwick Express, MBTA and VVO already known about, and presumably Southern DFT is the new logo as part of GTR)
     
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  21. raptorengineer

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    Canadian pacific could be for third party company under that partner program. i think CN bought via rail long time ago not to sure.
     
  22. Crosstie

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    I don't know about Thameslink, but I believe DTG does have a license for BNSF within the United States.
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    I have my doubts about the list's authenticity though ( or at least its currency). Where, for instance, are Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific, or is there a page missing?

    Also, many of these "licenses" are not new, though they could be for TSW.
     
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  23. kenobi#1878

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    If it’s true I can imagine that someone in DTG will be going “I smell profit”
     
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  24. kenobi#1878

    kenobi#1878 Well-Known Member

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    Oh and I asked my dad (who works for chiltern(it’s on the BTW)) if he knew about the chiltern license but he doesn’t
    He isn’t part of the publicity or license whatever though, he just fixes the trains
     
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  25. Challenger3985

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    Since many are just making speculation at this point, might as well see which operators have not been made in TSW2 yet that is on the filter list from 4.26. Shall we:
    -Aiken (what?)
    -Avanti West Coast
    -BNSF (not ganna happen for sure)
    -Canadian Pacific
    -Chiltern Railway (by Arriva)
    -Cross Country (by Arriva)
    -Freightliner
    -Grand Central (by Arriva)
    -Great Nothern (not even sure which one at this point)
    -Merseyrail
    -NJ Transit
    -OBB
    -Southern (not sure which one either, except one from Govia Thameslink)
    -Thurbo
    -VIA Rail (not gonna happen as well)
    At least this will give your heads scratching for a bit.
     
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  26. kenobi#1878

    kenobi#1878 Well-Known Member

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    Aiken is a small freight operator in the USA, South Carolina I think, according to a quick google search
     
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  27. kenobi#1878

    kenobi#1878 Well-Known Member

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    Chiltern is owned by arriva
    I’d hope great Northern as in the UK but tbh I have no flippin idea
     
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    That's what I found as well. Which to me, makes NO sense as to why add it to TSW2 in the "possible" future from that list (even without NS along with it). It really makes no sense, honestly.
    Plus what I found on the Aiken Railway, it has 2 lines (the Warrenville and the North Aiken) which only have and operate 2 GP30s to run on. Though I'm surprised DTG manage to get the logo from them, somehow.
     
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  29. fabdiva

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    I think Aiken is the person who found this in the game files.

    Thing is these are probably just placeholders. Possibly something has been mocked up to demo to the Rail Companies to try and get them on board. Maybe some basic external models
     
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  30. stujoy

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    Not particularly associated just with this list but in answer to the BNSF inclusion on it and people’s assertion that it could never appear in TSW. Things change. Always keep that in mind. Just because up to a point a license has not been obtainable it does not mean it can never be obtained, just as in the same way a license that was held can cease to be held for a multitude of reasons. In a case where DTG have been unable to speak to exactly the right person in a big organisation in the past it does not mean the person with the ability to say yes to a license will never be reached. Nothing stays the same forever, ask my belt size.
     
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  31. james64

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    Great Northern are the ones that run semi fast services from King's Cross to Cambridge, Ely, King's Lynn and Peterborough etc. They're owned by the same company as Southern and Thameslink.
     
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    What's interesting is that Norfolk Southern is completely omitted from this list, I know DTM had issues trying to get them to approve a EL scheme awhile back, I wonder if the NS license has completely fell thru. Not to mention Norfolk Southern IRL is a mess right now anyway (Layoffs, constant derailments)
     
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  33. Crosstie

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    However, the company just announced all-time record profits for Q2, 2021.

    But I agree its absence from the list is a mystery. There's a long list of NS routes and locos in TS.

    Perhaps the licenses for TS do not automatically transfer to TSW, though most of the Class1 roads have appeared in both Sims.
     
  34. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    DTG does have a bnsf license in ts2021, but that license is only applicable in the United States. If a bnsf was purchased outside the U.S then your train would be unbranded
     
  35. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    that can be indeed, i think that is same in TS right
     
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    Of course, it could be the Great Northern Railway, which ran from St Paul, Minnesota to Seattle, Washington and is the predecessor of Burlington Northern, and thence BNSF.
    I could be joking, but then again, it has appeared in TS Classic, along with a beautiful F7 and its "Empire Builder" liveried cars and freight wagons. :)
     
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  37. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    I think Grand Central Mean MTA Metro North Route
     
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    Grand Central is a railway company in the U.K. If it says Grand Central then it's referring to the railway. Yes Grand Central Terminal is a station for MTA Metro North Railroad trains and the MTA New York City Subway but if there was gonna be a reference to Metro-North, then it would probably say "MTA_MNR" like how it says "MTA_LIRR" for the long island railroad license
     
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    by that u mean only a 3rd dev party team LOCATED IN US could build a BNSF route??
     
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    Milepost Simulations, who has done 2 1990s era Santa Fe Routes for TS Classic are located in the UK so no.
    20210802_135010.jpg
     
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    But these routes are so short, i just check on their official website
     
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  42. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    Still I was hoping to see MTA- Metro North Routes, since they already did LIRR. This is my personal favorite route that i have been waiting but still they haven't come out with one for TSW 2. I was hoping in TSW, but it didn't happen, Along with Other NYC MTA Company routes like NJ Transit, PATH Train, as well as others.
     
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    Doesn't matter if the lines Grand Central operate are short though. They possibly have the license to that rail company
     
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    I would love to see metro north routes as well. I usually take the New Haven line or the Hudson line to go upstate from the city and i enjoyed playing the Hudson and New Haven lines in ts2021 as well
     
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    What do you mean short? Grand Central's services are all 2+ hours, we'd more than likely only get a small portion of the routes they operate, unless that's what you mean by short routes.
     
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    It isn’t a list of all the licenses DTG have, just what’s already in or potentially coming soon in TSW2. If there are no plans for any NS content then there is no need for the logo in the game files. That’s all the list is, logos of licensed material in TSW2. Of course if no NS license is available then it won’t appear there.
     
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    This is Aiken 8F38B5C4-C649-4AB6-A37A-06D1A3190CC5.jpeg
     
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  48. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    Short in term of station stops
     
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    No offence to yourself or your old man, but unless they work directly in the brand/marketing or legal divisions, it is _highly_ unlikely that any major company employee knows who has particular brand/product licenses etc.

    I work for one of the largest equipment manufacturers in the world (with a particularly iconic golden colour scheme) as a design engineer (which means I have to do required learning every year about protecting the company brand and how to apply it to parts etc) and even I don't know who has licenses for it (and there will be dozens if not hundreds)
     
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    Yeah that's what express means, it's 265 miles between Sunderland & Kings Cross, that doesn't include the line to Bradford.
     
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