Well, this thought was in my mind for a while after someone thought there won't be anyone doing US contents anytime soon: And my thought of that post is just: why? Because so far, I've already seen some work done from 2nd and 3-party creators for other countries in TSW (UK/Germany/Swiss, you get the idea). That many of them have already done a few contents for TS1 as well, so why would this one be any different from the rest is my question (which may or may not make sense to you). I may regret making this thread later on, but I thought I would get this out of my mind before I would find it too negative to ignore. Even though it might already be negative enough when writing this, now that I'm thinking about it. But the question still stands either way for now.
There are a few US content creators for TS1 so no reason they can't work with DTG for TSW so long as they meet the usual legal criteria
I think that 3rd parties have been waiting to see if TSW was a going concern before they committed; after all, Flight Sim World didn't make it. IOW was the very first third-party route, and even loco DLCs have been rare (I can't think of one except the BR 204). But now we are seeing a second, bigger route from Rivet, and TSG working on a hatful of locomotives. I think more of the TSC 3rd party developers will follow along, including those who specialize in US and other-country content. I just can't wait for the first $150 Armstrong Powerhouse locomotive.......
Also worth considering is that third party teams may only have limited resources at their disposal. If they're currently doing nicely making add-ons for Train Simulator they may not want to split their time into learning a new toolset, signing up to agreements with DTG and then, potentially, not seeing a similar or better return on the word they're doing. More third parties will undoubtedly arrive on the scene over time, but that will likely come after a tipping point has been reached where developing for TSW is seen as more desirable than TS.
This is true, I know there have been American creators that made content for TS1 (DTM, G-Trax, Milepost). Then I guess only time will tell if there will be 3rd-parties making American add-ons for TSW2 in the future when they're ready at least. Of course, my question did got me concerned about how Clinchfield is gonna sound. Don't get me wrong, the route looks amazing from the article screenshots. It's the engine sounds on the locos is what worries me the most (mostly on the F7. SD40, not so much) since Oakville. But, I'll may have to see and hear that during the preview stream then.
Oakville didn't include a 567 engine. The CN's GP9RMs had been rebuilt with 645 power assemblies, so those sounds wouldn't apply to an (ex-F3/"F5") F7 anyway.
(deleted the last one and redone it on this post) Seriously, that was not my point. My point was how Dovetail has made audio sounds to locos that not only accurate but improvised at the same time as they did with the Dash 8 (exact same sounds as the AC44). And even at times, doesn't even bother putting in an accurate horn sound like Oakville. They just put in a regular stock horn sound file that's been used by others (not just DTG) for years now. You may not care for Loco sound accuracy, but I do. At least I do want to feel like I'm driving an actual train in a sim that's proper or accurate and not being improvised or buggy like TSW2 is at times. I know it ain't perfect, but it's better than nothing at this point. (If you don't get it, then don't bother replying to this post.)
No, I get it. The continued re-use of stock sounds, often from the wrong train, in lieu of obtaining the real thing and then mixing it well, is an ongoing World Immersion problem like the lighting and the shadow draw distance. It would at least be nice if DTG were to realize that US horns are designed to peel paint and kill small birds, not produce the anemic squeak of UK horns.
Yeah, it would be nice for the sounds of US equipment to be as loud as they are IRL, horns and all.....
I've been using a Searchlight AC4400CW locomotive for the last few days, again... She is phenomenal. I was wondering why. A few more things are interactive, but I mostly touch the throttle and brakes anyway. Physics is perfect, immersive, but it's not that either. The general electrifying feeling of being there inside is caused by the sounds. I absolutely agree with you. But I am slowly getting used to reality (TSW). I would like one, at least a fully refined model, for which I would pay a 'fortune' and maybe I would not complain even more about DTG.
I mean, there is literally a third party doing a full North American route, which we don't have for UK or Germany or any other country at the moment (excluding the published/finished routes for now). So obviously there are 3rd parties investing into this, if that will result in better quality, not sure though, only time will tell.
Yes but that third party is in the United Kingdom not in the U.S. We have yet to see a american third party make content and let's face it the british does not always do a good job of replicating u.s loco sounds. They'll do a good job of replicating german loco sounds though and mess up at times on modern British trains
I think it's intriguing that Skyhook are making Cane Creek. They must have had good reasons for choosing a US route, and this desert route in particular. I, for one, am looking forward to it. The sounds for the two locos are already in DTG's library, are they not?
3rd party gets 'simple' 'holiday themes'. Routes basically without timetables (without heavy traffic). I'm not saying it's wrong. DTG takes care of serious matters. PS just about scale
So true! My TS experience in North American diesels is at the point where if I can’t sub in the AC4400 or a Searchlight Simulations SD40-2 (just $10!), I won’t bother with the run. The thing that frustrates me is that there are good horns in TSW; the “French horn” of the LGV comes to mind. Why can’t those same resonant qualities be applied to a “paint peeling” US diesel horn?
Yeh cane creek in reality apparently has 1-2 services every week. I have no idea how you would make a timetable out of this route and make it sell well. If they just add the 1-2 weekly service then I don't see how it could sell
