Another Scottish Route

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  1. rain#4801

    rain#4801 New Member

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    So I was thinking all the routes in the uk but one are in England so what about adding another Scotrail route so Inverness - Edinburgh Waverley and the other way so Edinburgh Waverley - Inverness and another route idea Dundee - Edinburgh Waverley and again Edinburgh Waverley- Dundee or Dundee - Aberdeen and again Aberdeen - Dundee obviously what ever train you are on you make those certain stops in between.
     
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  2. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Inverness to Edinburgh is just shy of 175 miles. 3hrs 15mins
    Dundee is 59½ miles, 95 mins
    The latter is more likely
     
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  3. OldVern

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    Even Perth to Inverness would be too long at around 110 miles, sadly.

    What might be interesting would be something set around Inverness itself, maybe south to Aviemore and north to Dingwall so at least you get a taste of the atmosphere, especially if set back in the classic diesel era. Who doesn’t want a go at reversing the 2330 Glasgow/Edinburgh to Inverness into P5 to connect into the 0615 to Wick ready on P6. Then detach the various BG’s to shunt on the front of the north and Kyle departures.

    Of course we would finally need some sleeping cars and buffet vehicles to do the service justice and a Class 26, but otherwise motive power wise pretty much everything else already in game.
     
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  4. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    Fife circle in TSW would be pretty sweet IMO
     
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  5. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    A truly scenic route where the scenery is lovingly rather than auto created would be a lovely treat
     
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  6. bdlhouston#8691

    bdlhouston#8691 Well-Known Member

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    And with Dundee, could also potentially have the full fife circle as well
     
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  7. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    It would seem to be a logical extension add on, given all trains running to Glenrothes HAVE to go via Inverkeithing which would already be included in the "main DLC" between Edinburgh and Dundee
     
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  8. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    That would be great!
     
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  9. sophieclarke1983

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    Awesome bring it on
     
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  10. TrainGeek08

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    Scottish East Coast Main Line: Aberdeen-Dundee

    That thread which I made links into the Aberdeen-Dundee section of your suggestion, hope this explains everything which would be included in the route ;)
     
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  11. olly.smail

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    i feel like if a scottish diesel route were to be created then the aberdeen to inverness line would be a rlly scenic route with for example the class 158 & 170
     
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  12. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    I would love this route to come to TSW but it is just over 100 miles sadly so it has a minimal chance to come to TSW versus let's say Aberdeen-Dundee like my suggestion linked above :)
     
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  13. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    DTG have shown they can do 100 miles of countryside. It's when things get busy and has loads of stations that it becomes more intensive to dev
     
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  14. TrainGeek08

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    That's what I was thinking about, you've got what, 11 stations on it but they probably won't make it for a while because of the length, it seems they have gone back to shorter routes following TSW3s release routes being longer than usual ;)
     
  15. TSW Nathan

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    True but like ARuscoe said, it's not alot of stations and more countryside so it'd be easier and potentially more detailed because there is less work to do. :)
     
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    True, I want the route to be made but will they make it anytime soon, no they won't, hopefully they'll consider making it ;)
     
  17. TSW Nathan

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    Yup. Hopefully. :)
     
  18. ARuscoe

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    The "long routes" they did previously included very few stations
    SEHS added one station to the HS1 section and five to the NKL section
    The German route had three or four stations total so most of the original assets were bridges and tunnels
    The US route I don't know much about but it seemed rural

    So if they do Scotland with say 10 stations you may be able to be a bit more adventurous with the distance

    With BCC there's over 20 stations, and the new DE route has quite a few from what I've seen so the distance may be shorter, but the dev time on stations and assets is about right
     
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  19. TrainGeek08

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    That is true, they can make it but they are busy with the US stuff after Bremen-Oldenburg releases next week and you've just had Cross City so if this was the next DTG UK route let's say, you'd be seeing it after DTG have finished with their US commitments ;)
     
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  20. ARuscoe

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    This assumes a single development team... They have multiple. It's very likely they're already working on the next three or four releases beyond BRO but at various stages of development
     
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    Very true :)
     
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  22. TSW Nathan

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    Maybe they need to think about getting a Scottish Development Team ;) *nudge, nudge, wink, wink dovetail* ;);)
     
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    :D:D:D, I don't think they will sadly... :(
     
  24. TSW Nathan

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    Yea, shame
     
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  25. olly.smail

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    yes i would love this too, would be an awesome route to drive
     
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  26. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Yea. Scottish DMU's are such great trains to drive and the scenary would be stunning so there is almost nothing bad about it.
     
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  27. olly.smail

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    tbh tho i think the most ideal dmu scottish route would be the fife circle so i’d like to see that in the future
     
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  28. TSW Nathan

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    Yea. Me too! :)
     
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  29. hairyscotsman40

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    Agree. Especially now having Waverley modelled, could use 170, 43 and 158
     
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  30. oakleymoss#1362

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    would love to see the West Highland Line.. TBH I think that DTG needs to stop releasing routes based in England and actually start releasing DLCs for exsiting routes in TSW aswell as release more routes set in other UK countries such as Scotland, Wales and N Ireland so this is a very good shout!
     
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  31. rennekton#1349

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    You said to release dlc for existing routes which are also in England but you said in your first sentence you don't want more routes in England. So what is it you want
     
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  32. ARuscoe

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    They wanted to respond to someone talking about Scottish routes?
    And most likely the answer to "what is it you want" would be "every british railway line in one big network"
     
  33. trainsimplayer

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    Dovetail's way of killing off a fair part of the playerbase.
    We need more Scottish routes and Wales need to be introduced.
    We also need to upkeep England, particularly the North, East (to keep matt#4801 happy ;)) and Midlands. The Southeast has enough, for the time being.

    Ditching the largest country in the UK (with the biggest railway network) is a mad idea.
     
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  34. theorganist

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    I would love to see Aberdeen to Inverness set in the mid 1970's with a Swindon class 120 DMU, Inverness had six I believe, a class 26 and a class 40.

    Otherwise Fort William to Mallaig set in the same period with class 27's or the Kyle line with class 24 and 26.
     
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  35. matt#4801

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    Haha, yes, you took the words right out of my mouth!
     
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  36. torfmeister

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    They have... Rivet.
     
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  37. mortal1234

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    And hopefully they if they are not working on another Swiss route they are working away right now on Fife Circle or Edinburgh to Dundee !!. I will be glad to see Rivet pop up in the roadmap on Tuesday.
     
  38. pessitheghost

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    I would love to see Glasgow to Fortwilliam
     
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  39. oakleymoss#1362

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    ok.. I see where I went wrong.. I meant add future DLCs such as Locomotive DLC and other addons that could improve how a routes works such as a Diesel addon for SOS and PF aswell as a Class 50 and/or Velanta HST addon for WCL
     
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    I can see where you are getting at TBH. I would have to agree with you that we need more routes set in Western aswell as Eastern Regions..
     
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  42. trainsimplayer

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    May as well have linked the steam page for TSC.
    A4 Union of South Africa, firstly, sits in England. The only reason they included it on the TSC version was to have a Railtour scenario. In TSW that would just be a layer of an existing train.
    The Class 68 was taken back out of ScotRail's fleet a while ago. The fleet on this line now contains the HST, 170 and 158. Modifying the HST and 158 and making the 170, at least on paper, would seem feasible.
     
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    I have the TSC Fife Circle steam page linked. Speaking of the Fife Circle line what is the best DLC train for it besides the mentioned HST 170 158s?
     
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    Nothing.
     
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