Any Help Please?

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  1. zakbevington

    zakbevington Member

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    Hi guys I’m new to ts2021,I have it on laptop Currently and it is awful (not performing well as I expected). Anyway I’m asking if this pc has the correct requirements/specs to run ts smoothly. Any feedback would greatly be appreciated thanks.
     

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  2. trainsimplayer2020

    trainsimplayer2020 Well-Known Member

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    • Recommended for 32-bit:
      • OS: 32- or 64-bit Windows 7 Service Pack 1, 8.1 or 10 Required (Other OS versions and types are not supported)
      • Processor: Intel Core-i5 4690 3.50 GHz Quad Core or AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.80 GHz Quad Core or Better
      • Memory: 4 GB RAM (maximum possible under 32-bit Windows)/16 GB or Better (For 64-bit Windows)
      • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 or AMD Radeon RX 480 with 4 GB Dedicated VRAM or Better
      • DirectX®: 9.0c
      • Network: Broadband Connection (May incur additional costs for use)
      • Storage: High Performance SSD Recommended with 40 GB or more available space (Additional Add-Ons will require more)
      • Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Audio Device
      • Additional Notes: Requires mouse and keyboard or Xbox Controller
      Laptop, Notebook, Mobile or Low Power versions of the above specifications (including Intel or Integrated Graphics) may work but are not supported. Updates to Chipset, Graphics and Audio Device Drivers may be required. For information relating to recommended specifications for Train Simulator 64-bit, please refer to the Train Simulator 2019 User Guide.
     
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  3. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

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    DO NOT BUY THIS
    It's TERRIBLE value for money, no matter how cheap it is.

    The i3-9100F is not a great chip. It doesn't use hyperthreading, and is only a quad core chip, so quad core, quad threads. While threads do not make a massive difference in TS, buying a new machine with only 4 physical cores is not a great idea idea in 2021. 2010 maybe, but not now. It's single core performance is not great either, and this is what you need for Train Simulator.

    The GTX1650 is also not a great card. It performs about as well as my 6 year old GTX980 overall, and 4GB VRAM is on the limit of usefulness these days.

    Here's the problem though... almost all new systems these days get shipped with a 1650 or 1660 in it, because of the worldwide shortage of GPUs.. and being rubbish... there are still loads of 1650s and 1660s available. It's a bad time to buy a PC. Even if you find one with a decent GPU, they won't be able to build it for you, as they'll be waiting on stock like everyone else. You can always upgrade the GPU later though.

    That case looks terrible for cooling.

    I'd not buy anything from PC World/Curry's. There's more to a PC than its spec. How is it built? How good is the PSU (vital)? Have they filled all RAM slots with low capacity RAM making upgrading difficult? Is it a proprietary motherboard that will be hard to upgrade? None of these things you will know, and I promise you the minimum waged kids in the store will not be able to tell you. As it only ships with 8GB of RAM, which is NOT enough, you'll need to know this, because if they've filled all slots with 2GB DIMMS you'll have to actually buy 16GB is you want to upgrade to 16GB (instead of adding another 8 like in a well built, well planned system that isn't a rip off).

    A 256Gb SSD is tiny, and while it has a 1TB conventional HDD, running TS off a conventional hard drive is slow... and it's slow enough off a SSD already.

    If budget dictates that you must buy what is essentially an entry to mid level PC, at least buy it from a reputable system builder that has the experience and after sales support, and will also use standard commercially available parts so upgrading it is both possible and easy. I'd recommend this....

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/sca...-6gb-evga-gtx-1660-super-240gb-ssd-1tb-win-10

    Probably between £150 and 250 more expensive (I've no idea how much the Currys thing is), but there's a reason the piece of garbage from Curry's will be so cheap... and I bet it is really cheap.

    The Scan machine is a similar spec/level (but way better - see below)... but uses a 1660 Super.. which, while still a bit rubbish, is better than a 1650, and also has 6GB of VRAM. It also lists the exact components it is made from. You get a quality Asus B450 motherboard (ASUS PRIME B450M-A II), and it specified 2x4 for its RAM, meaning you have 2 slots free, and it's quality stuff too (Corsair Vengeance LPX). Quality Corsair power supply.. albeit a non-modular one. It has a 512GB M.2 SSD as well as 1TB mechanical storage. It also uses perhaps what is the best bang for the buck lower end CPU at the moment... the Ryzen 5 3600. The only drawback is that this also is only 8GB... but there is DEFINITELY 2 free slots, so you only have to buy another 8GB of RAM. As it's preferable to use matching DIMMS, at least you can in this, as it uses readily available and well known RAM. The Curry's heap of garbage will use unbranded rubbish. The Scan system will be upgradeable, and most B450 motherboards can be upgraded via a BIOS flash to accept new 3rd Gen Ryzen CPUs should you want to seriously upgrade it later.

    Intel is yesterday's news. They've lost the plot. They're still struggling to compete with AMD with their ageing architecture and 14nm fab process. 2nd or 3rd gen Ryzen is the way to go, and not just for gaming either... for anything.

    While I've never bought a pre-built PC in my life, I have been using Scan since I built my first PC in 1994 as they're not far away from me, and not once have I had any issue with them, and the guys there are actually knowledgeable unlike the people in PC world who will not be able to tell you anything about the heap of junk they are selling you.

    The only downside is that these days, gaming PCs are full of RGB LEDs, so they light up like a Xmas tree. You can switch it all off though if you want. With the GTX1660 Super in it... it will be fine for 1080p and will probably allow you to run at 1080P with all settings on Max (except AA, which you may need to back off a little) and at 1440p with almost everything except anti-aliasing and water quality on high settings. Later, when supply of parts recovers, slap a RTX3070 and more powerful PSU in there and you'll have a competent 4K gaming rig. Even if you have no idea how to change the GPU or PSU... you've bought it from people who do!!

    Note: A hefty GPU upgrade WILL also need a PSU upgrade in this system... but so would the basket case you were planning to buy from Currys - the difference being, with the Currys job there's a chance that it used a non-standard ATX connector or something equally as ridiculous - Dell often do the same so avoid them too).


    Do not buy a PC from PC World/Currys... and pay no attention to customer reviews, they're nearly always "It's dead good, my son loves it" from Karen in Barnsley or something.
     
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  4. junior hornet

    junior hornet Well-Known Member

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    My Experience of Curry’s/PC World is as follows:

    Currys PC World. We start with you.... and we finish as soon as we’ve got your money.
     
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  5. Pookeyhead

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    Also.. big names like HP, Dell etc.. always a bad idea.
     
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