Ap Class 90/mk3 - Missing Liveries

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  1. playthoseblues

    playthoseblues Active Member

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    Hello,
    In the recent AP sale I picked up the AP Class 90 enhancement pack. I'm trying it out at the moment however I'm missing some of the liveries advertised i.e. GNER/SNCB/First Scotrail. I've installed the extra stock and realistic branding patches recommended however still cannot find these.

    Does anyone have any advice?
    Many thanks!
     
  2. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    On the same page you purchased the Class 90 is the Realistic branding patch - have you installed that?
    Once you have selected the AP_Waggonz then Class90Pack01 they should all appear
    Screenshot_1 - Test Centre_51.11560-6.22286_12-00-34.jpg
     
  3. playthoseblues

    playthoseblues Active Member

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    Hi There
    I believe I have done this and reinstalled the branding patch and extra stock files but with no luck. I'll try to reinstall all the files again but it's really strange!
     
  4. Måns Johannesson

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    The locos are in the Class90Pack, Class90Pack01 is the pack sold on Steam. Also just brought the pack and the loco:s are there for me.
     
  5. playthoseblues

    playthoseblues Active Member

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    It's really weird, when I check the asset files the different liveries are there but they don't show up in the quick drive menu in game or in RW enhancer. I have the intercity, red/black and ONE livery. I can't seem to find LNER or SNCB but the asset files are in the APWaggonz folder
     
  6. class2ldn2801

    class2ldn2801 Active Member

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    Have you tried unpacking the assets folder within class 90pack01?
     
  7. Reef

    Reef Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    This is a completely unadvisable and unnecessary step. I wish people would stop suggesting this when all it can potentially do is create more issues and make it difficult if not nigh on impossible to remove any repaints or modifications depending on your knowledge level.

    Just open the existing unextracted .ap with 7zip and drag/copy over the geo files that the installation instructions states are required, but these days the majority of content creators create installers to do this for you anyway.
     
  8. class2ldn2801

    class2ldn2801 Active Member

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    im talking about the unextracted ap folder within assets.
    Thats what i meant, extract the files to the current ones.
    Might have worded that badly
    Think its called Class90GAAssets.
    I appreciate im quite comfortable with the files so it may not be for everyone
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    Just going to throw this in the ball park to the op. You do actually own the class 90 from DTG on steam I take it. As you need that for the ap pack to work.
    Sounds silly to ask I know but people have purchased packs in the past thinking they were standalone like some ap products when in actual fact it was an enhancement pack.
     
  10. Johnno124

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    The 90 is a full rolling stock pack, 3 versions exist that can all run independently. The Class 90/Mk3 pack from AP website, the Class 90 Freightliner pack from AP Website and then the GEML Class 90 on Steam, All are made by AP/Waggonz and all are full packs in their own right.
     
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    Sorry i was thinking of the 91 for some bizzare reason. I think it was the GNER that threw me off lol. Thanks Johnno124
     
  12. playthoseblues

    playthoseblues Active Member

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    No I don't have the DTG loco but checked the requirements and it wasn't listed. Could someone explain the extracting file process? I'm willing to try that.

    It's strange the files for the other liveries are in assets but not in the game. They also show up in locoswap.
     
  13. USRailFan

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    Not all liveries are used in the bundled scenarios, check under Quick Drive
     
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    playthoseblues Active Member

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    I've been checking under Quick Drive with no luck!
     
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    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    This might be the cause. Looks like for the quick drive formations there are some additional requirements. IMG_0259.jpeg
     
  16. playthoseblues

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    Extra stock file also downloaded but still to no avail. A small step of progress is that the trains do show up under the content explorer in RW enhancer including the GNER/SNCB/SNCF liveries however they are still not able to view in game via Quick Drive.

    I do have the Class 90 GEML installed so I do wonder if this has anything to do with it. Not sure if this is relevant.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Do you own the DTG West Coast Main Line - North and /or the AP Mk3a stock?
    The Quick Drive consists use those Mk3s to make a train appear as the Class 90 pack from AP only comes with the locos and DVT.
     
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    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    Just got home from work and checked my install. I have no quick drive consists for the liveries you mention. Which is probably why you don’t see them.

    I do have scenarios for some of the liveries though and if I use the Locoswap tool or the editor, then I can swap any of the liveries in.

    Below is an example where I swapped in GNER and First ScotRail, just to prove they are there.

    I think the TSC menus will only ever show you liveries that actually have consists set up for them or are used in scenarios. But they are all available (which is why you can see them in RW).
    Class90.jpg
    Sorry for the really poor screenshot - didn't have much time.
     
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  19. playthoseblues

    playthoseblues Active Member

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    Tigert1966 I think you are correct - I contacted AP and had a swift response...

    "Only liveries relevant for use with Mk3 coaches are included in Quick Drive. To access the others, you must make your own Quick Drive consists using the stock you own or the scenario editor"

    Thanks for the advice from all that posted. Hope this helps anyone who may come across this in the future.
     
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    What would he need the AP Mk3a stock for? It's not among the requirements for the AP Class 90
     
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    They didn't say that. Their comment was about Mk3s in general and by implication means the ones in WCML North.
     
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    Removed - my error
     
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    Those are based on the WCML North Mk3s, the do NOT require the AP Mk3a pack.
     
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    Removed - my error
     
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    "Mk3s extra stock" != "AP Mk3a pack" so I don't understand what I'm supposed to complain about
     
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    As said, requires the extra stock (which the op claims they have downloaded) AND WCML North (for the Mk3a's). I can't think of anything other than some geo files being missing, though that shouldn't be the case with the op. I'm really confused as to why they aren't showing
     
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    I don’t think the OP still has a problem. I think he was just expecting to see more quick drives than are actually provided. I checked my installation last night and the quick drives he was expecting to see, don’t exist. He also stated he had a reply from AP saying the same thing.

    All the livery are available in the editor / Locoswap. Only a few have quick drive consists.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    I have quite a lot of Quick Drives as they are based on the stock in the system - At least a full page and a half
    This is my Pre Load folder
    Screenshot (309).jpg

    Although some of these seemed to have been added later.
     

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