Assistance W/ Finding Assets For S-bahn Rostock Route

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  1. Blazin

    Blazin Well-Known Member

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    Hi all; I have been getting together the requirements needed for the S-Bahn Rostock route from Rail-Sim.de which itself is a requirement for something else and as an English-only speaker who has constantly had to translate a lot of the text over the site and other requirements I have hit a road block with the requirements for this route as it is especially confusing and was wondering if anyone could help.

    I can not find the requirements under the "www . railworks . cz" section and I can't find much regarding the bottom sections featuring GreatNorthern assets that come under "Portland" "GRNy" and "Allegheny" and neither can the creator of the route clearly as "Unbekannter Herkunft" means "Unknown Origin" in English. So if anyone can expand on where to find these assets that would be great; and if you can't find them anymore please let me know regardless so I don't end up going down a rabbit hole trying to search for them.
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    This is the route I am specifically talking about: https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/1487-s-bahn-rostock-beta-mit-db-tracks/

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
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    Blazin Well-Known Member

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    Thanks but that wouldn't be it. I actually own the original Steam release of Portland Terminal and it comes under G-TraX as "PortlandTerminal" and with the re-release on Railworks America it's the same except called "MaineMaritime".

    The Unknown Origin section of file assets relate directly to the product folder and I had managed to track down the Zwischen Elster und Saale folder which was from some DR Tracks that got re-released on SimTogether.
     
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    Blazin Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have the Port Road.

    I provided what I am missing and attached the full requirements below as a means of reference. As mentioned in my original post what I am missing is everything listed under "www . railworks . cz" and what is listed besides GreatNorthener under "Unbekannter Herkunft" which translates to Unknown Origin in English.
     
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    Thank you very much for the help here I’ll take a look into these. Now all is needed to be found is that elusive Portland asset folder. :)
     
  9. OldAlaskaGuy

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    You will find the Portland assets at Golden Age of Rails also. Look under TS2020 Scenery and scroll down to oil tanks and pipeline. Download both of those. http://golden-age-rails.com/
     
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    Blazin Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot! Do you know what are the specific items that come under the GNRy & Allegheny folders too as mentioned above?

    I was planning on doing what Peter mentioned where I install the route later on and then search for the missing assets with TS-Tools to track them down from the Golden Age of Rails site as well but if you know what specific downloads from the site use those folders already please let me know. :)
     
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    Both the Allegheny and GNRY are route folders. The GNRY is for Cascadian I believe. The Allegheny may be for the Boston and Albany. You might post on RWA asking what routes these folders used for?
     
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    Routes don't use other route folders...they use the assets folders that come with other routes, which may not be named the same.
     
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    These are asset folders. PM Michael Stephan at RWA for more information these are his assets.
     
  14. Spikee1975

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    Get the GreatNortherner\Portland assets here.

    http://golden-age-rails.com/rwscenry.html

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    I'd recommend downloading everything from Micha's site. These assets are required for many other routes too, and will complete the GreatNortherner folder (Allegheny, GNRy, SteamEra, etc...)
     
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    This is what is in my folders.

    Allegheny.jpg GNRY.jpg
     
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    Thanks all; I’ll look into downloading the scenery file library from Golden Age Railroading and see where that gets me.

    Today I managed to track down one of the Czech assets, “Městské domy_1" as it was in a Google Drive folder with Josef72 assets that can be accessed through the Rodachtalbahn requirements from Rail-Sim . de. The same route also came with an asset's rwp which included files that installed some files into the Scenery directory of GreatNortherner>GNRy which was good but still no Allegheny so like I said I'll look into downloading the file library of scenery assets from Golden Age Rails. I don't think "Allegheny" is from the Boston & Albany route as that is only a 2023 release and the S-Bahn Rostock route dates back a lot longer ago. Also SteamDB says that it's file directory is G-TraX>BostonAlbany so that confirms that.

    Now all I really need to do is hunt down the rest of these Czech assets; and some Italian ones too (the Italian ones aren't needed for the S-Bahn Rostock route, but instead for another as S-Bahn Rostock is itself a requirement for the Inselbahn V2 route I'm trying to acquire). The European train-simmers sure do love their lengthy requirement lists!!! ;)

    If you anyone can help with this stuff as well that would be great; the further assets I am missing are:
    "Truck Scania Pack v1" and "Natanti Pack" from a now down site called "Amicitreni".

    Thanks in advance; and thanks for the help already received.
     
  17. mindenjohn

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    I agree with Spikee - download everything from Michael's site it'll come in for many routes. The trick I used to get the Portland assets was to copy the MaineMaritime assets and rename the copy "Portland Terminal" - it works. The Italian assets are available on a Dutch site:
    https://simtogether.com/files/category/329-europe/ Look in the RH list and all of the wagons are there.
     
  18. Spikee1975

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    That's my GN folder. Some folders may have been included in other freeware routes (e.g. GN Butte)

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    Seems like a lot of hassle for a route this age... hope you are not too disappointed, when you get it running. On Railsim we always say: don´t go to the trouble for very old routes. This is one of them. Others are S-Bahn Salzburg, Felberpass, Elbe-Weser-Dreieck, Knotenpunkt Hamburg or Stuttgart-Ulm. They basicly all look like default Kuju routes.
    I´ll give it one thing: Rostock is the best of the really old routes and includes some custombuilt assets.
     
  20. Spikee1975

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    toms87
    A good thing when you are distributing routes like Harznetz is to include freeware assets you are allowed to use in an asset folder specific to the route.

    That has the advantage of eventual updates to one of the asset packs not affecting your route, so it stays as intended.

    It can be easily done using a MassSearchAndReplace tool to change the paths in the tiles and bins. (If Geos are done properly, they contain only a relative path to the textures so can be moved around).

    example: stuff used from Assets\EZY could become Assets\HarznetzTeam\Harznetz2000\EZY. SAD have used this method to keep it to few Providers used (which also lowers the risk of an OOM). More provider\products -> more blueprints.paks to keep in memory (all are loaded!), longer loading times, even if just one single asset from a product is being used.
     
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  21. Gary Padley

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    Most of what you've copied will be useless--the .bin files will be referencing the .Geos etc in the original location.
     
  22. Spikee1975

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    Don't confuse G-TraX\PortlandTerminal with GreatNortherner\Portland. As said, the latter comes from downloading the oil tanks and pipeline assets.

    And as Gary said, generally copying assets will not work / can give errors unless you adjust all the paths in the assets' bins. It works to some extent, as a PortlandTerminal .bin will load a MaineMaritime Geo which you have in that case. The bins are acting as a shortcut then. Just needs both DLC ticked.

    It can cause other problems though, as there are now assets with the same DisplayName twice in the current session. As long as you're not using the editor, it should not be that worrysome.

    There is issues with missing tunnel holes on routes related to this, the same tunnel hole decal twice in the editor (showing only one!) but missing in the exported assets (as the wrong one was shipped only).
     
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    I think Amicitreni closed but the assets went to other sites

    I saw this on RailSim.de
    https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/...tainer-and-truck-pack-by-news-and-ocvn-v-1-0/

    Have a look at this
    https://www.simtreni.net/download/index.php?subcat=1 and then OGGETTI - there are 29 items spread over 5 pages

    If not this might have what you need
    http://www.rotabili-italiani.org/sito/index.html
     
  24. Blazin

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    Thanks you two I'll look into these sites.

    A hassle is an understatement; have spent a few hours over the past few days gathering the assets and it has been tedious at times but I have discovered some fun things I wouldn't have discovered otherwise. Lot's of very interesting assets out there and it astonished me how creative Europeans are with how many freeware assets they create for others to use. I also discovered other routes such as the freeware Albulabahn from RailSim which was very interesting. A very kuju-esque route so the looks weren't the nicest and scenarios provided were DB standard gauge stock running on the 1,000mm gauge Swiss track which was interesting to say the least but regardless it offered an interesting look into an old era of the simulator and people making do with what they had back then. It is a very impressive length; drove the way from Pontresina or St Moritz (can't remember which) to Tirano. A lot further than you can go with payware routes where you need both Bernina Pass & Bernina Line routes from Thomson Interactive and Rivet Games to do the run. I believe the freeware route also had the line headed further north from St Moritz as well if I remember correctly.
     
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    Yes, we can´t complain about assets over here. There is too many at this point and it´s a bit of a mess.

    Just get the Thomson one on Steam in a sale. If you own all the Rhb routes, there is someone on Railsim that extended them and merged them to a certain degree. It has had very positive reviews. https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/9589-rhb-surselva-linie-erweitert-beta-v1/

    I´m amazed how everyone seems to hunt for these old routes. If you are going to the trouble with the european freeware asset mess, than at least go for the good routes. Harznetz, Rodachtalbahn, Projekt Freiberg, Bad Altburg Netz, Hannover-Bremerhaven, Wetteraunetz, Thüringer Wald. Half of them are fictional, but very good with great scenery and proper signalling etc.
    Besides that, the whole of the dutch and czech network is basicly freeware.
    The czech network actually is under the radar of most people, because you have to sift through czech websites and they have never been recorded on the great TSC map.
     
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    They are not easy to find but some are very good. Too many sadly are wip but seem to have just stopped (so no progress). Those with catenary are amazingly good wiring. There are also some very good freeware locomotives.
     
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    I downloaded all of the Golden Age Rails scenery assets filling up the GNRy and Portland folders. However; no “Allegheny” file has appeared. Upon some research it’s a county in Pennsylvania if that has something to do with it. If no one knows the origin; may have to chase up Michael Stephen on Railworks America some time.

    In other news; can’t find the Italian stock I need. There are some truck packs; they do seem to be Scania based but aren’t called as such, instead just “Truck Pack Vol 1” and Vol 2 as well which I had already downloaded as requirements I believe but I’ll check again later.

    No sign of this “Natanti Pack” which seems like it would have something to do with boats as “Natanti” means “Boats” in English I believe.

    If it comes down to it and I just cannot find these few assets; is it possible to do the classic asset file swap technique if I have any similar pieces of scenery from my files?
     
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    I would run the route as the missing assets would not stop it but you might have some gaps where the boats should be.
    Then run TS Tools and look for the missing assets and either change them for something else or just remove them from the route.
     
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    It's an oldie an it shows, this makes it hard to track down some missing assets the authors website is long gone, RLB canned a few of their projects years ago. Some assets I couldn't find like this track rule 'track rules blueprint_PortRoad_orig.bin' I even checked the original port road from UKTS. I'm missing the RLB assets couldn't find them either.

    The file RW0381-DBmu.zip inside the rar is corrupt using winrar they are DR Doppelstockwagens they can be found on rail-sim.de I think.

    For GreatNortherner assets download GN scenery objects here Packages - DutchSims, For the Czech assets you need Josef72 and Mube's assets you can get them here Úložiště objektů - RailSimulator - RailWorks - Train Simulator - Train Sim World Fórum (simtrains.eu).

    I only have it installed for other routes so didn't worry too much about missing assets.
     
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    A missing track rule is only a potential problem if it's applied to track--if it's linked to a loft or road just ignore it.
     
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    Yes I'm aware and it is applied, there a quite a few reported by ts-tools but not all are used.
     
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    So simply swap it for a rule you have.
     
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    Thanks mate; got the "Allegheny" folder from this and a few of the Czech assets too!
     

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