Thinking of buying Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim route any thought would much appreciated is it worth £30 is a long route how locos do you get with and is any good. Thanks
Well reading the store page can be difficult for some people but this is what you get: 89 km route from Rosenheim, Germany to Salzburg, Austria set in approx. 2013 Included rolling stock: DB BR 111 electric locomotive in DB red livery DB BR 185.2 electric locomotive in DB Railion livery DB Gen 4 Dosto coaches, Habbiins and Roos-t wagons* ÖBB 4024 EMU in ÖBB livery *No idea why it says Roos-t as you get Sggmrss container wagons with the route Additional layers from other dlc include: DB BR 628.2, in red DB livery (Niddertalbahn required) - these come from off-world locations such as Landshut or Mühldorf to operate between Freilassing and Salzburg or from Waging to operate between Hufschlag and Traunstein. DB BR 101 loco Add-on – these operate IC, EC, EN and CNL services using the 101 and IC coaches. DB BR 103 rail tour with heritage InterCity train (Linke Rheinstrecke required) Railpool BR 193 Vectron and Eanos Wagon DB BR 363, in red DB livery (loco Add-on required) DB BR 628.2 can be seen at Freilassing, Traunstein, Prien and Rosenheim DB BR 425 at Traunstein ICE 3 can be seen at Bahnhof Rosenheim ÖBB 1116 with 4 EC and on all freight services. DB BR 101 expert and IC cab car on the normal 101 services. you can read up some more here https://live.dovetailgames.com/live...rticle/bahnstrecke-salzburg-rosenheim-out-now And after a couple months I'll be close to finishing my rework of the timetable adding Railjet, Westbahn, S2, S4, REX and a better operation of the EN/CNL and freight services. plus the 111 with DoSto and N-wagen formations like they actually ran there. The route itself takes about an hour to an hour and 15 minutes to complete a full run on depending on the service and has a great variation of services. if it's worth the full price or a sale that is a personal question. for me I'd say yes. but the extra layers really make it feel alive and I have no idea which dlc you have and what you enjoy driving.
I like it and it has become my favourite German route, before the Frankfurt route in any case. The class 111 is quite different to drive from the more modern German electric loco's. I like the scenery and the route feels quite busy. I have no knowledge of the area in real life so I can't comment as to how realistic the timetable is, I presume it is close as generally DTG routes now have decent timetables, WCMLS not withstanding. I like driving all sorts of trains, so for me it was worth £30, but it depends on your outlook and what you are interested in. I would watch a few videos on youtube and see what you think.
after doing a lot of research, most is done very good. the N-wagens missing is probably an oversight on reading the timetable or them wanting to not add both DoSto and N-wagen for some reason. Due to the lack of austrian stock there is a lot of stuff missing and therefore Salzburg does feel really quiet. and those two freight trains on the same track at freilassing really annoys me, I still wonder who accepted that as a good idea. for me I am mainly adding some fixes like the N-wagen coaches and other services overlooked either due to time constraints or lack of research material. the 59xxx trains for example are special additions to balance the load of people. there actually was one that drove with a 425 instead of dosto's. but also EN and CNL drove with coaches combined and salzburg was where they got rearranged and split to go to italy, hungary and more. ingame they are just AI passing through. looking at the live camera at freilassing I'm also making freight way more realistic. nonetheless the default timetable is pretty good and only seems wrong when you have studied the actual one. (really. no shunting at salzburg Hbf at all dtg? or the 103 railtour going the wrong way.) and although some choices they made confuse me. a few actually makes sense if you try and keep the required DLC low or are on a time limit to release it.
Its visualy very nice route, and it’s fun to drive with Baureihe 111, this loco feels very realistic. Also there are often speed limit changes over turns, but there is also section when you ho 160km/h. You have neutral section between Germany and Austria where you have to turn off MCB and put Panto down, then all again and put train line power on as well. Also the services are good compromise with driving/stopping pattern. Route is highly recomended for DE content player.
Yes I am sure you are right, I look forward to your new timetable very much. I assumed the Salzburg end probably shouldn't be that quiet.
You have obviously done quite a bit of research into the rl operations. I was always wondering about the ICs towards Salzburg and why they are routed through platform 1 and not 2. seemed odd, as it slows them down quite early and probably adds a minute or so to their timetable. I am assuming this is a mistake by the original tt that came with the route?!
I can't get any info on the operations for platforms during the construction. but platform 1 is a split platform. I use the north end for the S2 turning services and I'm not sure about the south end. track 7 and 8 are for S3 going through and austria bound railjet and westbahn have used it too occasionally. track 5 and 6 go from and to salzburg sam/gnigl over the Tirolerbahn track 3 and 4 go from and to salzburg kasern an Linz over the Westbahn. those are also linked to the outbound tracks so you have 4 parralel tracks for easy in and out the station without any blocking. the railjet splits are done on five I think. four and five are the longest platforms of the station. able to fit night services that are 2 loco and 14 coaches long. or two railjets combined the free track in between 1 and two is track 408. why they didn't keep counting? no idea. but I use that for shunting parts of night trains and empty stock from the yard. Track two and whatever is empty is probably used for EC services and german RE's turning around because they stay in austria. if track 9 was used for anything when it was an ending track during the construction, I have no clue. most tracks do have a signal on the platform so I try to use them like that by putting two trains on one platform. Sadly the turntable wires are not functional and if you stop on there the game will ask you to turn on the mcb and lift the panto. so no services from there sadly. (I also dropped some static trains on Itzling. maybe making a local freight come from there to Hbf but they seem to not load in ingame.) Track one does make sense for night services though as it's easy to shunt a loco off and run it over 408 back without blocking many tracks. speaking of. I am currently fighting all the coupling and uncoupling as I don't have any errors but "5 services have incomplete paths" and thus the simulation fails in the end. I think I need some "if stop marker reached than start up another train to move" and some couple services need their front and back fixed. but it doesn't complain which are broken so it's a bit weird what it doesn't like. I'm also having trains completely passing through multiple signals past their stop marker of said track unless I tell them to stop at a specific location.
not a lot. from salzburg Hbf to Freilassing with stops at the s bahn stations. about a 10 to 15 minute trip
I share with you an idea, I have been experiencing since TSW4, in order to make more entertaining to drive trains on routes!. Almost all routes it have some sidings or even an extra platform. So I divided the route on "segments". How? I look on the map for some distances, up to a station or siding. First I select a timetable according to the date or hour. But I did not drive that train!. I left it , and goes to an empty platform or siding, and there using "Free Mode", I add "My train" Usually for this purpose I select a Creator's Club repaint for the locomotive. Then I select freight or passenger wagons, usually not available for that route. But sometimes yes.Only changing the locomotive. When I have everything set it up on my train, I let the original one, to leave first! So when I get the green light, I been following it. This means I will have yellows and red lights ahead! On Salsburg- Rosenheim you can do that, at least 3 times!. I like the route very much due to it has very nice landscapes, with mountains, and some rivers and trees. You have also 2 train companies of different countries with OBB and DB Dynamic weather makes the run more interesting too. Try it! Is it really worth it!
Semmeringbahn would be the better pick if that’s what you’re after. Rosenheim is really good though, if you like loco hauling. Particularly for the 101.
agreed. purely to drive the 4024 I would reccomend Semmeringbahn or Voralberg over Salzburg - Rosenheim. for me personally Voralberg keeps crashing even without mods. and having ÖBB 1116's for EC, EN, RJ and more plus a broken substitution on adding the vectron in makes Semmeringbahn feel really lacking in railscene. nonetheless it is a very pretty route to drive. especially at sunrise or sundown. On Salzburg - Rosenheim I will be adding about 20% playable services. some empty stock and yard moves. and a lot of AI at salzburg since DTG did not add the S2, REX or anything that ends at salzburg and stays in austria. the route itself looks good and with the diverse services it is really good to get into loco hauled trains. from the 101 and 1116 to freight or the RE5 with the 111. there's something for everyone. I don't want to bash other timetable creators but SRM really feels like it wasn't done by Joe or other praised timetable editors by the community. from the lack of trains at Salzburg and missing N-Wagens on the RE's to the lack of freight at Freilassing, including the weird two freight trains at the same track. It just feels a bit rushed and sadly formation and small timetable updates aren't dtg's thing. I'd like to see some more love for existing content fixes. or some more open answers why stuff won't be fixed. like that one shunt scenario on RSN. just explain it's very weird and not fixable instead of radio silence and annoyed players for 3 years. In my opinion all routes having more or less some austria in it I can reccomend. they are all interesting on their own and really marked the point DTG improved the quality of their releases. from Voralberg to Frankfurt to Fulda it has been constantly improving and although there are still bugs somewhere on any route or train. any route being marked as being terrible has been made longer ago than mid TSW4. I only wish the roadmap had something austrian on it...
