1. The route started crashing randomly on multiple services. 2. There are no passengers on the trains when you spawn on foot. (this has been reported multiple times) 3. Passengers won't board the trains on most of the stations. (this has been reported multiple times) 4. Passengers will never board the coaches that have a cab. 5. Even if the train spawns with some passengers, all of them will get off at the next station. 6. If you are lucky some passengers will board the train but they can only use the front door on each carriage and the will still get off at the next station. (but with the short stopping time new passengers can't even reach the door before it closes) 7!. Most of the stations are full with invisible passengers that you can still bump into and the framerate still suffers even when they are not rendered. (For example: Spawn at Queens park at 10am walk down the right stairs and try to walk through the platform edge after the train opened its doors. you will bump into invisible passengers. This happens on most of the routes but most players won't even realize it but it still kills the fps) 8. Invisible passengers sitting in some seats and the player can't sit down. (9) Bidstack ads still don't work (this issue has been going on for almost a year now without fix) 10. Passengers will disappear from the train while its moving (if there are any). 11. Passengers will randomly Appear in the train while its moving. Number 7 and 8 are present on most of the routes. I believe this is the reason why players sometimes can't sit down in the MML HST, mk1, class 166, and 422 coaches. (they are already occupied by invisible passengers) And yes I posted it here because if I post this in the Technical reports it will be ignored and forgotten in a day. So please Dovetail! Fix the passenger system or make a new one. The current one is slowly killing the game.
Thats not something broke with the june update from this week, the release of tsw 3 broke the entire thing like so many other stuff too, this through the entire peace of software on almost every route. To be honest i dont care at all, i gave up on dtg and their mess full of short cuts.
Yes it was horrible since TSW3 released, but the random crashes since the new patch is the final blow for this route. It's just sad. We finally got an awesome timetable by Joe but the TSW3 passenger system killed it at the same time.
I just watched the Interview Geoff made with Matt when the bakerloo line released and tried to replicate the footage from the game. The passenger issue is obvious.
The invisible passenger issue is also on Xbox. I constantly have the invisible passenger issue at Elephant And Castle. The whole passenger system is just a mess that they still haven't sorted out although these were issues before this patch came out
Yes the timetable of joe is a huge masterpiece, brings this route truely alive, hope we will see his talent on future timetable creations/ upgrades. (Small Hint, you can use the doors of the hst pair to get into the mainline and use the yard as sandbox)
Which services are you experiencing crashes? Have you updated your video card recently? I will go have a look.
You should post this in the Technical reports forum, because it will get logged. I ran a 6:30am service 1970 Bakerloo Line and I had no crash. However passengers don't board on every vehicle. I still got maximum enjoyment. And I could sit down on the way back from Elephant and Castle and passengers were in my car. However I needed to do the tutorial again. I need to drive this route more often. It is very well done and enjoyable. While I believe they are working on a massive project right now like TSW4 or Rush Hour 2 or similar.... I think they are now fixing the routes. I'm just loving the ability to see passengers board and the various things you can do. If you can write down each time you do a service and then tell us when it crashes let us know. It is on PC and do you have system specs to hand? Have you updated Windows and the video card drivers etc? I'm sure the little issues will be fixed and rather than get fixated on them let's try to fix the crashes for you. Passengers boarding the train at Elephant and Castle. By the way, how many tube lines are in London? I think the stations look amazing in TSW3!
Hi krk0445, If you are experiencing crashes on a PC, please use our troubleshooting guide as your first point of call: https://dovetailgames.freshdesk.com...les/80000896131-experiencing-technical-issues As a reminder, mods commonly need to be updated by the original author after a game update. Having old mods in your installation, is an easy way to make the game crash or behave in an unexpected way.
As Chris mentioned, please make sure to check our troubleshooting guide when experiencing crashes. If that doesn't help reach out to our support by creating a ticket. We are also aware of the ongoing issues with passengers and are actively working on it, but can't give you a timeline yet.
My biggest issue with Bakerloo is setting up the control key and fault finding when you get no power when you get up I enjoy it immensely!!!
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I think DTG has done an amazing job with Bakerloo!!! I actually have the line and find it challenging as a real driver on the line would. Bakerloo even has station announcements!
A fault finding card for when you need to troubleshoot as it happens often. When you can't get power. Very satisfying indeed and highly detailed!!!!
You are just making me want to play Bakerloo Line more and more. Time for the Piccadilly line!!! Yay!!! Woohoo!!!!
I am going to try another. Please let me know which service is crashing for you? Are you doing timetables? Journeys or scenarios???
I'm getting into it!! Now for some NPCs and talking etc... stories (I guess its possible if people want to have something different).... Maybe find a NPC with some information about the area that a station is in. And then you have to go upstairs and find something (kind of puzzle and more challenging than collectibles but interactive maybe?). In any case I'm off to do a service. I haven't had any crashes from Bakerloo....
NPC system is immersion core element and need urgently to be improved or rebuild. The same as broken random liveries in freight trains - immersion thrusters.
Clipping on the platform at kliburn Park and maida vale, missing foliage at harrow and wealdstone sidings. Incorrect sounds ripped from the class 455 dlc from a tsc dlc that came out in 2011, missing signage, Picidally circus modeled incorrectly (the tracks are much closer to each other and it's missing a curve), waterloo station having a huge gap when it doesn't in real life, lack of track noise, no protection at London Road Depot and I can go on and on. This video explains the issues of the route and whilst the new timetable is nice, that doesn't take away the fact that this route was clearly rushed so no it isn't a route that deserves praise in my view. It's ok at best to be honest and I fear DTG would model another london underground route poorly in my view although I hope they wouldn't but I don't have confidence in them
Yeah this is down to sloppy and rushed route building, the worst offenders for me are the complete lack of tunnel lighting (tunnel lights can be turned on in emergencies or whenever the need for them arises e.g. a lost item in the tunnel, and are essential for the service to be able to run), the missing underside platform lights on curved platforms such as Waterloo & Paddington which are a safety measure to illuminate the often large gap between the train and the platform, and the missing blue countdown markers when departing from stations (this is another safety measure, on one-person-operation trains like the 1972 Stock, Platform Monitors are used to assist the driver with the boarding process. When the train departs from the platform the driver will have no visual of the platform, and so these countdown markers are provided to tell the driver when the train has fully left the platform. If say for example, a passenger emergency alarm was pulled, then the driver would be required to stop the train as long as any part of the train is within the boundaries of the platform.)
Hopefully these images format correctly - they are displaying the tunnel lights, platform lights and countdown markers.
I doubt the NPCs are 'urgent'. The lights can be added. There are a few mod builders for TSW3. They might do it. I think you all don't understand DTG has a business to run. They can only devote so many resources to fixing things. As I have already said I enjoy the route. A Modder might be able to help. If you really have problems driving the tube then don't play it. Then if you can decide to drive it you can enjoy it then good. That is what its about. Seriously I think they have done a lot of work. But thank you for your real life comparisons. Excellent.
My biggest single issue with Bakerloo remains that one or two short runs generate so much AP, it’s instantly promoted to being your most played route and train, when emphatically it’s not.
It would be nice if they were, even World of Subways 3 version of the Circle Line featured toggleable tunnel lights in their sim, that game even had the real digital voice announcements and it's like 10 years old? Yet still really basic to none at all announcements in TSW, LOL. I think the real reason these features were missed out though was because of time constraints, really it's hard to believe something so essential to the service was accidentally missed, someone high up must've looked at the state of the route and the time they had left considering other parts of the route are done really well and said 'yep, this'll do' and they shipped the route out as it is.
Fair enough, I've never realised this because BKL is my favourite route on TSW with LBN coming in close second and I quite like the generous AP that you get on a single run, my main account must be around level 500 now. I can see why this can be annoying if it isn't your favourite route, though I think the reason the AP you get is so high is simply because you're making so many station stops as it's a high-frequency underground route.
