PC Bakerloo Timetable Red Lights

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  1. Kitten

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    Default season/weather
    • 231-01 London Road Depot
    • 222D-01 Stop at Queens Park Platform 3. Red light BB4 on platform doesn't change.
    • 233D-01 London Road Depot Red light X336 after Waterloo doesn't change.
    • 224-01 When you reach Harrow and Wealdstone, after loading passengers the timer goes blank "-:-:-" and the service cannot be completed. Red light WS55 doesn't change to go to siding. Also the passengers should have left the train since it is to be moved to siding.
    • 226D-02 After passengers have boarded at Queens Park, the signal BB29 doesn't change. As usual, signaller responds "proceed as signals indicate".
    • 226D-23 When I reach Queens Park, signal BB31 stays horizontal (stop). Signaller responds "proceed as signals indicate".
     
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  2. vincentnicholas202

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    You need to changeover
     
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    Have you resumed a saved game?
     
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  4. Kitten

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    No. I know that is completely bugged.
     
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  5. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    I never had problems on bakerloo, not a single time. The timetable isnt challenging anyway when it comes to signals. This will change when joes update gets its release.

    To go out of the depot you have to ask for permission. Also keeping schedule is possible. Max delay should not be more than 3-4mins northbound if you do everything right.

    Try spawn on foot and take over the service 2-5 mins prior to depart.
     
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  6. Kitten

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    I've tried contacting the signaller and the response is "Proceed as signals indicate".

    It's not about whether or not the timetable is challenging. I would like to get the badge for completing said services, which I cannot do if the signal doesn't change.
     
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  7. DeltaFOX2k7

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    All problems reported here are based on user error or too little knowledge about both signals and the route itself.
    I could not find any issues on the services mentioned here.

    231-01 & 233D-01
    The signal in the depot is always illuminated red which does not mean that it is really red. To find out, you have to pay attention to the white disc, the shunting signal. Diagonal red stripe means green, horizontal red stripe means red. So in both cases you have green to go straight ahead.
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    222D-01 & 226D-02
    After you left the depot, you were led to the right track, this should have seemed strange to you since trains in the UK usually run on the left side. If you don't know the Bakerloo Line, you might think that signal BB4 and BB29 are faulty, but it's not. In this services you have to change the cabs, a simple look at the map (press 9) would have given you clarity.
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    224-01:
    Signal WS55 works as intended, initially red for the main line, after closing the doors still red for the main line and green respectively white for shunting to the siding.
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  9. meridian#2659

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    Elephant Castle to Harrow Wealdstone - Northbound:
    Part 1: Elephant Castle to Baker Street:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FEhRnaB2jE
    Part 2: Baker Street - Queens Park: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsQayM2uKA
    Part 3: QP - Stonebridge Park: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6947KDKsx-c
    Part 4: Stonebridge Park - H&W: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oQaMYbrg_M

    Harrow Wealdstone to Elephant Castle - Southbound:
    Part 1: HW - Stonebridge Park:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfezUp5zcG4
    Part 2: Stonebridge Park - QP: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPmUfStP_kk
    Part 3: Qeens Park - Baker Street: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ6w5owv-7I
    Part 4: Baker Street - Elephant Castle: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVFfE-9liwc

    Shunting & Depot Movements:
    Harrow & Wealdstone - Shunting:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRKGhmiXjuw
    Willesden Junction - Shunting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=irY_FeCP_As
    Queens Park - Depot Moves Pt1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=essBI9zP5R8
    Queens Park - Depot Moves Pt2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sarq6sQOy9o
    Stone Bridge Park - Depot Moves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMbNosZsdfw
    London Road - Depot Moves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FtZ5nr9xOI
    Lambeth North - Shunt Moves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxbKbgqan3c
    Piccadilly Circus & Paddington - Crossover Moves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1FS0NO7U-Q
    Elephant Castle - Siding Moves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOplc5w0JMM

    Those guides you can use for the TSW route. I did an entire Speed Chart for No Hud driving, where this driving experience becomes very interessting. The route is very well made by DTG, i recommend you to figure out the "limit of shunt" for the depot moves, or just use the map. DTG implemented even the Push Buttons on Signals or Tunnel Walls for asking the permission.

    Take a look at the "route direction indicators" when you might have to cross over the sidings at elephant castle. If you doing well, you are able to finish the services with less than 4 mins delay and you could technicly continue the entire 24h without delay the a.i services. It just needs a little practise & training.

    Another Tip: Close the doors 5 seconds before the time of the task is up, so you can keep the schedule thight.
     
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  10. DeltaFOX2k7

    DeltaFOX2k7 Well-Known Member

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    These videos are great, I have watched them many times, very informative and detailed explanations throughout the entire route.
    Everyone who likes Bakerloo should watch them.
     
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  11. Kitten

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    Admittedly I am new to the game but I am not watching guides on YouTube when the game could be clearer about what the next step(s) should be. Thanks for the assistance.
     
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    TSW explains only the basics and sometimes nothing at all. So don't rely too much on the ingame instructions, they are not always helpful for new players. With time you will realize that Youtube or help from other players will be inevitable. ;)
     
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  13. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Tsw is hard for people without any knowledge about trains. On the other side they provide us a good solid sim, from making players into train drivers was nothing mentioned.

    Even without any knowledge enjoying tsw is possible. And for more specific informations there is internet or a ton of books.
     
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  14. Kitten

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    Thank you, both. I was able to complete these, in particular 231-01.

    It is quite strange having to park the tube in a tunnel and change to the other side in complete darkness. I turned on the cab lights to the rear before I left the depot, but makes me wonder why we don't have a flashlight.
     
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    Press "L" when walking, this turns on your flash light
     
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    226D-23 is bugged. The horizontal signal BB31 never changes.

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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like you didnt see the sheds of queens park on the other side. You need to change ends.

    2nd, and more important: there are 2 trains on the sidings of QP north sheds, so why would you excpect it to turn green?
     
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    I thought there was room for me ahead. I didn't even know there were sheds on the other side. Thank you for your help. I've mapped Ctrl+9 on my controller so I can check the map easily. I see there is an objective marker for it. Just would be nice if the game had little hints.
     
  19. DeltaFOX2k7

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    You can get the objective markers directly on the tracks, just press CTRL+1.

    Here are some other helpful shortcuts:

    CTRL+1 = Next stop & objective marker on/off
    CTRL+2 = Next speed change on/off
    CTRL+3 = Next signal on/off
    CTRL+4 = Next speed & next signal on/off
    CTRL+5 = Speedometer on/off
    CTRL+6 = AP-points on/off
    CTRL+7 = Stop marker (red-yellow-green) on/off
    CTRL+8 = White pointer (dot) on/50%/off

    CTRL+0 = Teleport into drivers seat
     
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