Bnsf Licensing: What Dlc's Should Be Available In The Future....

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  1. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much putting this out to show what DLC should be effected by the BNSF licensing announcement earlier today.

    What I find interesting is how many non-BNSF related locomotives got removed from worldwide distribution due to the US only deal.

    Routes currently unavailable for purchase thru steam
    -Marias Pass
    -Stevens Pass
    -Cajon Pass

    Route that are available, but "should" get a branding update
    -Clear Creek Narrow Gauge (Change from Colorado & Central to Colorado Southern)
    -Chicago Racetrack (BNSF Branding added)
    -Montana Hi-Line (BNSF Branding added)
    -Tehachapi Pass (BNSF Branding added)
    -Raton Pass (Santa Fe Branding added)
    -Arizona Divide (Santa Fe Branding added)

    Loco DLC's

    GP9 Loco Pack

    -Union Pacific
    -Burlington Northern
    -BNSF
    -Canadian National
    -Santa Fe (Bookend & Yellow Warbonnet)
    -Milwaukee Road
    -Rock Island Railroad
    -Southern
    -Chicago Northwestern
    -Western Pacific
    -Great Northern
    -Denver & Rio Grande
    -Southern Pacific (Black Widow & Bloody Nose)

    SW1500 Switcher Loco Pack
    -Burlington Northern
    -BNSF
    -Canadian National
    -Frisco
    -Norfolk Southern "Original Logo"
    -Norfolk Southern "Horsehead Logo"
    -Southern
    -Union Pacific
    -Southern Pacific
    -Western Pacific

    SD70 V2 Loco Pack
    -SD70ACe BNSF H3 (ISO/Non ISO)
    -SD70MAC BNSF (Executive Scheme)
    -SD70M-2 Norfolk Southern
    -SD70M-2 Canadian National

    Dash 9 Loco Pack
    -C44-9W BNSF H2
    -C44-9W BNSF "Fakebonnet"
    -C40-9W Norfolk Southern
    -C44-9W Canadian National

    BNSF Locomotive Pack
    -SD40-2 BN Standard
    -SD40-2 BN Whiteface
    -SD40-2 BNSF Heritage
    -SD40-2 BNSF H4
    -GP38-2 BN Standard
    -GP38-2 BNSF H4
    -F45 BN Standard

    SD75 Pack
    -SD75M Santa Fe Warbonnet
    -SD75M BNSF Warbonnet Patched
    -SD75I BNSF "FakeBonnet"

    Great Northern F7 Empire Builder

    SP&S E-1 Class Northern

    BNSF ES44DC Loco (H2)

    DTM's ATSF SD45-2

    BNSF ES44AC & SD40-2 Loco Add-On


    Loco DLC's that require a DLC that was related to BNSF
    CSX SD70MAC Livery (Req. SD70 V2 Pack)
    CSX ES44AC Livery (Req. BNSF ES44DC Loco)
    Southern Pacific F7 Bloody Nose (Req. Great Northern F7 EB)
    Denver & Rio Grande F7 (Req. Great Northern F7 EB)

    Scenerio Packs

    Chicago Racetrack Scenario Pack 01
    Pacific Surfliner Scenario Pack

    Other/Marketplace

    Great Northern F7 Big Sky Blue Livery
    Reppo BN GP20 Livery
    ATSF Wagon Pack
    BN Wagon Pack
    BNSF Wagon Pack
    GN Wagon Pack
     
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  2. sphexi

    sphexi Active Member

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    That is quite a list. Some of them have always been in my "unobtainium" list for a long time, but hopefully they will all be released. The only thing I noticed in the thread is a reference to "more information coming next year" which will unfortunately mean "available after the Steam Winter Sale".

    I'm still happy though :)
     
  3. trainsimplayer2020

    trainsimplayer2020 Well-Known Member

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    I think you forgot to write Bessemer & Lake Eire route?

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/bessemer-lake-erie-no-longer-for-sale-on-steam.18880/
     
  4. LPSimulation

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    Bessemer & Lake Erie was withdrawn from steam on a note completely unrelated to BNSF. Essentially, the B&LE are currently owned by Canadian National and DTG believed the CN license extended to their subsidiaries, which apparently was not the case. The route is now available from RailWorks America under a new name, Pennsylvania Steam.
     
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  5. LPSimulation

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    A similar thing happened to Portland Terminal, now known as Maine Maritime, however I think that was more to do with things like McDonald's logos, not just the BNSF branded wagons. Interestingly though Pacific Surfliner includes some BNSF gondolas yet remained throughout the entire ban period, interesting.
     
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  6. trainsimplayer2020

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    Ok I thought it also had something to do with BNSF.

    That is a wonderful route that I wish everyone should be able to play.

    I love that route.
     
  7. LPSimulation

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    The good news is we can, it's free now.
     
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    It is great to hear that Marias Pass and
    Stevens Pass will soon be available to purchase via Steam again soon. Wonderful news and great self Christmas presents if they do infact arrive before the 25th.
     
  9. USRailFan

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    Stevens Pass, since that is the one of the three unavailable ones I don't have
     
  10. trev123

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    Some subsidiary' routes/locos of BNSF were also affected in TS 2022. The BNSF embargo didn't just affect BNSF logos but other rail companies that they own/owned. BNSF owned the Santa Fe routes/locos and also the logos on the trains in the Clear Creek route were not the right ones for those living outside the USA. I'm not sure whether we will be getting these too. Perhaps DTG could verify this. I don't know of any other routes locos that are in TS2022 that were rebranded or not because of the BNSF embargo.
     
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    Chicago Racetrack were unbranded for EU customers
     
  12. trev123

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    Yes, BNSF had their finger in the pie in other routes too.
     
  13. Cyclone

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    Worth noting there are two CN SD75I reskins out there (one at RWA, one at another site tied to the Discord server). I still think having a unique product for it available with a Canadian route would be best, but those reskins will do for now.

    As a courtesy, I acquired a bunch of manuals some time ago and will share some of them here now. This gives you a taste of what's coming up. If you were to eventually buy any of these, the manual will show up in that folder as well. Note this is only a small sample.

    Side note: the Chicago Switching Yard is not included with the GP9 presently. I found the old RW2 package that included it. It's a different package now.
     

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  14. LPSimulation

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    The Chicago Switching yard would be pretty redundant anyway, considering we now have the aurora to chicago route.
     
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    Is the exact same yard in that route? I'm guessing the scenarios for the Switching Yard in the Workshop will not work, however. (Yes, there are three.)
     
  16. LPSimulation

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    Yeah, I believe its based on either Western Ave or Cicero
     
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    From the GP9 manual:

    "Included with the GP9 Road Switcher locomotives is the 'Chicago Switching Yard'. This rail yard is loosely based on the Chicago & North Western Proviso Yard in the Berkley area south of Chicago O'Hare International Airport."

    So I presume that's the Western Avenue one, but maybe it's another one.

    NOTE: This was back during RW2. It's no longer included.
     
  18. USRailFan

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    AFAIK it's still mentioned in the manual for the currently sold version.. Guess they forgot to upgrade it...
     
  19. Cyclone

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    Manuals rarely get updated.
     
  20. crlynch

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    Just a question from NZ, what dlc's come with Marias Pass????
     
  21. Cyclone

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    Just the route: https://steamdb.info/sub/26907/apps/

    There was a Marias Pass Collection with some older DLCs like the SD70V2 and the SD75. However, that package is not currently available even for Americans, I think. Package details for that are at https://steamdb.info/sub/27717/apps/ (Also, the four trains are not available for purchase worldwide as of December 22, either. So there's no update on whether this package will return or be worth the price compared to eventual sale prices.)
     
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    I got this on eBay just to have CP, well key had already been activated... anyway nice to have:D
    20211219_091359.jpg
     
  23. trev123

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    From my Marias Pass. BNSF ES44DC, SW1500, AutorackCar, BoxCar, BoxCar50FT, CementHopper, CentreBeamFlatcar TT2X, CoalHopper, CoilSteelCar, CoveredHopper, DoubleStackCar, EOTD, FlatCarRTX90, Hopper4Chutes, LowGondola, LumberFlatCar 62FT, RefrigeratorCar, TankCar and WoodChipGondola.
     
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  24. crlynch

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    Thanks so much, this is just going to be awesome
     
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  25. crlynch

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    Awesome my friend carn't wait.
     
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  26. Michael Newbury

    Michael Newbury Well-Known Member

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    Looking forward to when they will release, some I have been able to find on steam and have added those to my wish, and there are a couple that did not come up. So I have those ones written down so when they do release I will remember what they are.
     
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  27. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Umm, ok?

    This isn't a suggestion post.
     
  28. Cyclone

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    It is now. :cool:

    I can see the reading into it like that, so I will not fault it.
     

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