Route Bnsf Seattle Subdivision

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  1. alphasquad#7151

    alphasquad#7151 Member

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    Seattle Subdivision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Seattle_Subdivision) which starts at King Street Station in Seattle Washington and travels 136.5 miles to Vancouver Station. This line has Union Pacific, BNSF, Amtrak Coast Starlight, Amtrak Talago and Amtrak Cascades.
    I feel like if we do get this route and have UP and Amtrak the route should start in Portland Oregon because you have UP's Albina Yard, BNSF's Lake Yard and its Union Station which is a crew change point for Coast Starlight crews. Also adding Portland Oregon would add the possibility for BNSF locals from Vancouver Yard to Lake Yard.

    This route has many freights including;
    BNSF and Union Pacific garbage trains
    BNSF coal trains
    BNSF and Union Pacific oil trains
    BNSF and Union Pacific intermodal trains
    BNSF and UP manifest trains
    BNSF and Union Pacific grain trains
    Union Pacific potash trains
    BNSF light power moves from both Lake Yard to Vancouver Yard
    Amtrak Coast Starlight
    Amtrak Cascades
    Amtrak Talago
    BNSF ballast trains (not common)
    BNSF military trains (not common)

    This route has many trains on it a day. Vancouver Washington is a Major Junction point connecting BNSF's Fallbridge Sub to the Seattle Sub. Vancouver is also the point where trains on the Fallbridge heading to Portland head through the junction and cross the Columbia River.
     
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  2. goop#5830

    goop#5830 Active Member

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    Too long.
     
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  3. jedi247

    jedi247 Well-Known Member

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    This sounds like a fantastic idea for TSW5. Great scenery with mountains, the Pacific Ocean and Puget Sound; lots of trains; and of course, big cities like Portland and Seattle. If we get the Pacific Northwest in game, I'd love either Stevens Pass, BNSF Fallbridge Sub, UP Portland Sub, the Seattle Sub, or the Amtrak Cascades Line.

    As for locomotives, I'd suggest the following:
    1.) BNSF SD75M/SD75I: these are commonly used on trash and heavy manifest trains in the Seattle area
    2.) BNSF GP39-3: rebuilt from BN GP39E/M/V units which are themselves rebuilt GP30s and GP35s; for yard and local duties
    3.) Siemens SC44 Charger: for Cascades trains
    4.) Amtrak ALC-42 Charger: for Amtrak Coast Starlight and Empire Builder; also the ALC-42s had their innaugural run on the Empire Builder, so maybe a couple of scenarios could recreate that run
    5.) BNSF ET44C4 or ET44ACH: environmentally-friendly GEVOs for heavy freight services; Also UP C45AH
    6.) BNSF GP60/GP60M(-3)/GP60B: for local and yard services; also UP GP60/GP62/GP60E
    7.) Seattle Sounder MP40PH-3C (preferably) or F59PHI: for Sounder Commuter trains; also include Cab Car and coaches
    8.) Other possible UP power: C45ACCTE, SD70M, SD59MX, SD90-43MAC, AC6000CW/C44ACM, GP40-2/N, SD70AH-T4
    9.) Amtrak P42DC or P32-8BWH (used on Coast Starlight)
    10.) Other possible BNSF Power: GP50/GP25, C44-9W/AC44C4M, AC4400CW, SD70MAC, SD60M(-3), GP38-2, GP39-2
    11.) SP GS-4 #4449 in Portland, Oregon
    Also, the BNSF and UP power from Cajon and Sherman Hill could be operated on any of the Pacific Northwest routes.

    Rolling stock ideas:
    1.) Boeing Fuselage Train cars for Stevens Pass; included in TSC version of route; very cool trains
    2.) Garbage train gondolas
    3.) Amtrak Superliners and Cascades Talgo cars (or maybe Siemens Venture Cars in the futrue as a DLC pack)
    4.) BNSF and UP freight cars: Intermodal, coal, oil, cement hoppers, grain and potash hoppers, ballast hoppers, auto racks, etc.
     
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  4. trainmasteraiden

    trainmasteraiden Active Member

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    The whole route will be too long for DTG
     
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    trainmasteraiden Active Member

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    I agree
     
  6. jedi247

    jedi247 Well-Known Member

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    We could get the 81.8-mile-long BNSF/Amtrak Cascades/Seattle Sounder Commuter line between Everett and Lakewood, WA. We'd get Cascades Siemens Chargers, Sounder MP40PH-3Cs, and BNSF freight action (preferably with an ET44C4, SD75M/I, C44-9W/AC44C4M, or SD60M-3 and GP60/M-3/B, GP39-3, or GP50/GP25 all on the same route. Of course, Amtrak runs their long distance Empire Builder and Coast Starlight on this route, so the ALC-42 Charger or P42DC Genesis could also be added, along with Amtrak Superliner cars.
     
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