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Boston Route Speculation

Discussion in 'PC Discussion' started by Anthony Pecoraro, May 1, 2021.

  1. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

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    We've seen the rush hour image that contains buildings from Boston, as well as a red and a white stripe. Let the speculation begin! Personally, I think it's the northern section of the NEC.
     
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    I had that part of the NEC on TS and I loved it! The NEC is so unique in the sense that it's almost as every curve has a different speed limit, and you have to always have an eye on the speed and upcoming speed limit, which makes for a very unique and fun experience. Also ATC and ACSES are pretty fun to use. Hopefully it comes with an Acela this time :) and more in-depth features for the trains.
     
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  3. Inkar

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    Covid makes traveling difficult, so anything that has been done before gets a bonus chance of being selected.
     
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  4. vyncwr

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    I would say NEC too. I think we will get a reused ACS-64 (if its reusable at all) and an Acela. Both have been done by DTG previously. However I really would like Genesis as well but I don't think it's coming.
     
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    Its the Red Line Subway probably
     
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    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    Tell me what this mean, I’m right with Red Line?
     
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    MBTA commuter rail uses F40PHs and MP36s, so I wouldn't be surprised if we got that, as DTG is obviously fond of recycling locos and rolling stock.

    Also would fit the rush hour theme.
     
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  9. Ravi

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    I hope they do the MBTA commuter line to North Shore. I used to take that from Beverly to Ipswich when I lived up there. The line terminates at Salem after 8 PM but runs up to Gloucester I think. But its been a while so I might be wrong. Its a single line with like 1 train up and down every hour. so not that exciting therefore will not happen. If they do the subway, here's hoping there are multiple lines and atleast a couple rolling stock.

    p.s. I still have my Charlie Card. Might not work now but still have that as a souvenir.
     
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  10. Challenger3985

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    I'm not betting on the Red Line from what some are predicting so far (because that feels too short for a route like that if you don't know what the line is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Line_(MBTA)). But that doesn't mean that Boston will be part of the new route, however (Either Boston's South or North Station as a terminal).

    If it's part of NEC, then the only connection that would have MBTA (if DTG has the license from them first) as part of the route would have to be the Providence/Stoughton Line. As NEC parallels on that line with Amtrak's Northeast Regional and the Acela.
     
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    Would really enjoy seeing Boston South Station in TSW2. Back in the 70’s when I was a cadet attending the U.S. Coast Guard Academy, hopping a train to Boston from New London, CT was my escape from the rigors of the military academy. If the line only goes to Providence, RI, it would still bring back memories of the old days... especially the return trip from Boston nursing a hangover from visiting the infamous “Combat Zone” in Boston :) .
     
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    I agree that the Providence/Stoughton line (hopefully with the Stoughton part, would be neat) is more likely, but the Red line really isn't that unrealistic- it's really similar in length and number of stations to the Bakerloo line. It's even a bit longer.
     
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  13. Ravi

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    Yeah. most probably its the NEC, Boston - Providence. Takes about 40 mins if you take the Regional and around 30 mins if you take the Acela. I hope they bring the Acela originally to the route. It was a add on in classic TS
     
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  14. Challenger3985

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    Uhhh... How did I predict that right? 0_0
     
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    U predicted the future:o
     
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  16. Challenger3985

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    Though I did expect the ACS-64 to return if possible (so no surprise there). But a little disappointed that there will be F40PH-3Cs for MBTA (betting it was reused from the F40PH-2CATs. Would make sense body-wise).
     
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    The Acela is not in the list, so I'm guessing (and hoping) we will get it as DLC again.
     
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    I don't know, that's about 20 miles of extra track for DTG to model, as well as the scenery around those parts as well. I don't see it happening.
     
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    Interesting as that would bring the total route mileage up to appx 65 miles, which is about the upper limit of what we've seen so far in the game. I don't know the area, so not sure how important those stops are wrt MBTA operations (e.g. any yards, maint faciliities, etc on that portion?)
     
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    Based on what I've seen on Google Maps, there is nothing to note south of Providence outside the 2 stations, MBTA does have a storage yard just north of Providence, Amtrak also has a small MOW yard there as well. aaaaaaaaaa.png
     
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    Honestly what I'm wondering more is whether we'll get the Stoughton branch- just a short 4 mile stub off the route that's single track and unelectrified where about half the Providence/Stoughton line trains terminate. It would honestly be a bit disappointing if they didn't include it, but DTG have missed some obvious short branches before.

    Also, to irresponsibly speculate even further (as if I haven't done enough of that, lol), there are some obvious DLC opportunities that I'm sure DTG are already thinking of. The Acela, first gen or Avelia Liberty, is an obvious one, and I feel it's almost guaranteed tbh- they even reference how this stretch of track is the fastest in the country because of it in the leaked page.

    MBTA additions are also quite easy to come up with. There's the HSP-46 and the GP40MC-annd there's a diverse enough mess of coaches that they could easily package a new coach type to substitute into trains with these locomotives.

    Not a DLC exactly, but I hope there's a freight service layer from Sand Patch or something.

    And to get a bit more ambitious, if they ever figure out route extensions a pretty unique one would be the MBTA Orange line, which runs alongside the route for pretty much half the subway line. Or, obviously just other MBTA commuter lines. That would work too.
     
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  23. vyncwr

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    It sounds good, it's a mix of what most of us were thinking. I hope Acela will be in a DLC it would be such a big miss. Im looking forward for the MBTA services. :D
    Im also very happy for the Brighton Mainline.
     
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    Mmmm...i was expecting to see another part of NEC, but see Boston cool too))
     
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    NORTHEAST CORRIDOR: BOSTON - PROVIDENCE with Amtrak's 'Cities Sprinter', the ACS-64, and the MBTA's distinctive F40PH-3 locomotives.

    BRIGHTON MAIN LINE: LONDON VICTORIA - BRIGHTON with Southern's BR Class 377/4 and Gatwick Express BR Class 387 EMUs.

    BAHNSTRECKE RIESA - DRESDEN with Deutsche Bahn's BR 442, BR 143, BR 146.2 in DB livery and BR 185.5 in MRCE black livery.

    Exciting routes although a couple are from TS2021. May hold off purchasing until I have seen it on the streams etc.
     
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  26. Dinosbacsi

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    So am I, especially with the F40PH. I mean who doesn't love the F40PH? Though I'm really not fan of the purple livery MBTA has. That purple looks horrible, lol.

    By the way, anyone knows of a cabride video of the route between South Station and Providence?
     
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  27. vyncwr

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    I really liked the F40PH on the SSJ it's really fun to drive, I hope there will be some other MBTA locs as well later on, but first Acela :D
     
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    God hear you, they are exciting routes.
    I can't wait for May 4th, I wish they reveal the definitive routes there.
     
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    How did you get this information?
     
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    He got it from the raildev website which got down now saying 404. It was leaked out in the morning. :P
     
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    Oh snap, did I miss a leak or is this information still available somewhere?
    Seems exciting though!
     
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    Hmmm, new head out camera, gradient profile and added TrackIR support for PC sound interesting though.
     
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    Real cheap for 3 routes, looks promising!
     
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    Yeah, I wonder what the new head out camera means. I suppose something more realistic than the camera simply teleporting outside, but who knows?
     
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    I'm excited about the routes, especially London Victoria - Brighton.
    But the rolling stock of the three routes is reused, so my question is, what will be its price? Will it cost like a normal route or more expensive?
     
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    With Rollmaterial are used by MBTA?
     
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    The MBTA F40PH-3 is not the same locomotive used in the corridor peninsula but with another company?
    in this case MBTA instead of caltrain.
     
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    Locomotives: F40PH-3C diesel (similar to the one in Peninsula Corridor)
    MPI MP36PH-3C (like the PC Baby Bullet)
    MPI HSP46 diesel
    GP40MC diesel

    Coaches: Kawasaki double-deck BTC-4A
    Bombardier BTC-1
    Hyundai-Rotem BTC-4D
     
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    £24.99 / €29.99 / $29.99 for all the 3 routes in one, according to the article.
     
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    In that case, OLÉ.
    It seems to me a reasonable price for the three routes that despite the fact that most of the rolling stock is already in the game, it offers us Kilometris of fun and learning.
    I will definitely buy it.
     
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    Yes, same for me. Though I really don't care about the british and the german route, but I am interested in the NEC. But I doubt we will be able to buy them separately.
     
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    I do not believe and less knowing DTG. But if for the price of a route you take 2 more, I do not see where there is a problem. Hahaha.
    I do not believe that the NEC will finally reach TSW2, so much time and complaints cost ...
     
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    Yes, definitely great news. I always wanted to try NEC out in TSW, but after all the negative feedback it recieved, I just never got to it. Hopefully this one will end up being much better.

    The fact that it will have two operators on it will greatily increase variety. While I find the ACS-64 too modern and ugly, the Amtrak coaches look nice. I wonder if we will get the cab cars for them, either at release or later on. Do they run on this part of NEC?

    Edit: But I suppose even if the Amtrak stuff won't, the MBTA will definitely get a cab car, as the F40PHs couldn't be turn around easily - compared to the ACS-64, which has cab on both ends.
     
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    No Amtrak cabcars run on this section.
     
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    It’s a shame there’ll be no new trains on the Brighton Victoria or Dresden routes. I really hope they can link Brighton Victoria to East Coastway if you own both DLC, but I doubt we’ll see that happen.
     
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    True. But MBTA trains routinely run with them.
     
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    £24.99 for three brand new routes.

    Several major core updates this year and specific versions of TSW 2 for PS5 and Xbox Series S/X.

    Mega excited. I’m inclined to forgive DTG for HBL now. They’ve clearly been super busy on this little lot.
     
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    I hope upgrading to the PS5 or Xbox Series X/S versions don’t require you to get all the trophies again or start over from scratch. Fingers crossed.
     

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