Upcoming Release Br Class 90 Freight Loco - Coming March 30th

DTG Harry How many services total playable on WCMLs, and how many total including AI on the new Timetable?

 

Day 1 purchase for me as I’m frequently visiting Watford Jn and see these rolling through on inter modal ops. A welcome addition to the game, along with the 70 that’s coming, at last UK freight will have some variety. Hope gameplay packs will be added for other parts of the electrified mainline.

 

"the machine room is not modelled, the DSD isolation is warning sticker on the machine room door to represent a driver entering the activated by interacting with a noise level room to enable / disable it."

Interaction with a sticker......hahahaha hahahaha that's absurd.

 

hoping ats and aas can both put their differences aside and have their products layer into each other

 

Yeah I must say the lack of an engine room is quite poor after the excellent stock on Stara Paka. Clicking a sticker to activate a safety system is silly.

 

Just a heads up the price in the article is wrong it should be £12.99
As for the lack of engine room it’s a pain I totally agree but with our first stock we needed to focus on getting the basics right before we were able to feature engine room details
We feel the price point reflects this pain quite well but you guys are the customer so all feedback is welcome

 

The Engine room would have made this a day one purchase. Not including it and interacting with a sticker, plus being put on one route only means it'll be a purchase when there is a sale on.

 

ok, in the end, it's a new loco but, $17.99 without engine room? why not $16.99 instead?

 

While an engine room would be really nice, it's really not going to bother me that the 10 seconds it would take to visit it and flick a switch in a drive doesn't happen.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect the DSD wouldn't be isolated in the real world so it wouldn't be realistic to click it anyway.

I'll be doing my normal CTRL enter, shift enter to turn the safety systems on.

For me not worth waiting for a sale for something I would rarely visit. I'm more focused on the actual drive and seeing something other than a 66.

 

The engine room missing is a shame, but the pack comes with 5 liveries, including a long awaited Freightliner branded loco. £12.99 is pretty good all in all (of course depending on quality which is TBD).

The part the value falls down on for me is more content being segregated in separate timetables, and of course this not appearing on more than one route is going to be a big hurdle for me.

 

Not easily worked with? I'll put that down to the AI.

 

Honestly who do they have proof reading these articles? Wrong price? Intractable GSMR?

 

Will be getting this but probably not for launch as it's such an expensive month already!

+1 on a solution for 85 different timetables for each route, and for ATS and AABS to come to a detente for the good of the game and its players

 

Its just a shame its only on one route the one i dont have or it would of been a day one purchase for me

 

Looking forward to this and its a day 1 purchase for me

 

So only on Milton-Keyes? No other modern British route?

 

Definitely looking forward to this and it's great that the Class 90 pack has five different liveries to choose from.

 

Certainly isn't on console. It's a fiddly faff!

 

Probably not buying until ats and aabs layer their trains into the timetable/s. I will watch the preview so I'm 100% sure what it will be like.

 

Price still hasn't been updated to the correct one that Alan has stated in this thread.

 

That would mean DTG having to fix something which isn't their strong point recently /s

 

What do you want it on? Drag it down dead to Paignton on the Riviera?

 

Cross City, Birmingham-Crewe, Hell, even Manchester Airport are all there for the taking.

Then you have the Just Trains routes which while wrong time frame is still fully electric.

 

Um Southeastern and what about ECML.

 

Why not $50 or $0?…..stop the nonsense over $1. ATS have set the price point and if you don’t like it go without!

 

It’s pretty surprising they haven’t even got this onto A) their own route & B) one of the few actual freight terminals in the game [or at least close to it at Picc)

 

Day one purchase for me too. Well done to ATS for bringing a different loco to the UK scene.

 

A potential day 1.

But I’m going to await feedback.
If this is littered with bugs then I think that’s me done with TSW.

 

Very odd this isn't layered onto their own route, considering Class 90s run some of the services from Trafford Park.

 

It's 2 small mistakes. There isn't any need to be dramatic.

 

Day 1 purchase and 1 step closer to a 91. Love the amount of livalries too. Dont give a monkeys about an engine room, thats just nerd overkill. Hopefully it will layer on to more routes in future

 

I can't justify it since it only runs on one route I don't like.
If it subbed in for ANY 86 or 87 on ALL those routes I can see that having value.
Just WCMLS though?
Sorry I gotta pass.
At that point it's only good for occasional free roam.

 

should it run on all of the wcml routes.

 

Yes it's a shame it doesn't layer on other routes, MAC, B2C, etc.
Fingers crossed we'll get it in the upcoming Trent Valley alongside the 70...

But it will still be day 1 for me for the exact opposing reason than you (WCMLS being my favorite route).

The only thing I hope for is that there will be as many layers as possible in the timetable (805, Nuclear, Intermodal, etc)...

 

Dont touch this kind of loco if you are not up to deliver the 1A product with the extra mile.

The class 90 is long long awaited from players enjoying uk routes. So my opinion on this hardly reflects the fact a cl.90 would better be in the hands of "just trains". No engine room? Sticker for activating safety systems?

Reminds me the Br187 desaster. So who is gonna release the cl.90 with the same quality standards as the 87/86?

 

Now if the creator of this is wise they will read the feedback, note the concerns, delay release and make the required adjustments. That would improve sales.

I assume 90050 at Crewe has been used as a base?
I have numerous photos from the cab should any comparisons be required.

 

Does this not layer into anything other route.

 

No which is baffling

 

But it should tho yeah.

 

Absolutely its on the one route i havent got plenty of other routes it could of layered onto

 

Same here. It is already an expensive month as DTG churn out release after release. I want to be 100% sure this is going to be solid particularly as regards sounds. Price not really an issue as £12.99 is the going rate for standard train add ons, but quality and playability are the main concern.

Double sided coin as if this had been a Class 56 or Class 60 with a tiptop sound set I would probably have Day One’d it.

 

What a serious mess.... Nothing more to say...!!!

 

The JT WCML routes are set too early for it.

In reality it should appear on literally every modern UK AC route we have in TSW, but it is the most common on the WCML sections we have, so I’d have at least expected it to layer on WCMLS & MAC. Would have been nice to see it on AAS’ TT’s too (once they get them fixed of course) but seems pretty clear we won’t see these 2 devs playing nice for the foreseeable.

 

1) It takes 10 days to change a price? Why not just change it into a "sale price" or something if that's easier? That's a huge turnaround on Steam's part if you have to plan price changes that far ahead.
2) The Class 90's were started building in 1987. I think a year difference is close enough. It's not like the whole WCML would look different in one year. It would work on every WCML route in game and the ECML as well.
Big oversight that will cost a LOT of sales.
Like having a sports car that you can't take out of your driveway.

 

I have a suspicion this will be a loco ATS plan to resell a few times with various packs.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see the passenger variant come along, then there’s the BR spec ones you could have for JT’s stuff.

 

I agree that there should have been more routes for the class 90 to run on, but WCMLoS is not it. We won't be getting the Class 90 as it was when it first entered service, so it is not only a year different. If an era appropriate Class 90 DLC was made, it would be much better to bundle in the MK3 DVT so it could run passenger services as well. This might happen in the future and would be a clever way of doing it imo.

On a sidenote, if a Class 90 DLC is ever made for WCMLoS, I hope we get seperate timetables so we still have a chance to play before the 90s were introduced.

 

I believe this thinking is an example of pitting the "purists" against the "casuals" and losing most of the player base since most are the latter.

I don't however think that's ATS's reasoning because if it were, then it would feature on the modern WCML routes which it doesn't.
Putting it in a new timetable would allow you to continue to play the "old" and the "new" timetables. However, I really think the best answer would be just to tag it to layer into any 86/87 service and not limit it to one route at all.
Then if you don't want it... don't buy it or turn the layer off.

Not sure why more developers don't just make things to sub in based on similar vehicles and not limit their success.
There must be a good reason because I see it over and over and they constantly leave money on the table.

 

But that wouldn't make sense either as the 86 and 87 are presented as they where in the the 80s, the Class 90 is presented as it is nowadays