I tried to play the Dresden Diversion with the BR193 Vectron and some tankercars. At several stops the braking of the train is really poor in my opinion. You almost need een emergencybrake to stop before a red signal, even when you approach with low speed. Is that built like that in the trains, or do i need to change something in the settings? In real life i am a traindriver in the Netherlands, and i have driven similar freighttrains in the past, and i didn't need to brake like that way.
guess a pysics bug. Like the br 363 when u spawn it and then insert the master key it is shaking like hell
No that is how the Vectron works. You move the brake lever, it sends a signal to the computer, the computer then applies the brakes. For this reason, when I drive the Vectron under PZB on Dresden-Riesa, I pretty much never exceed 90km/h so that I can slow down for 70km/h in time. How slowly are you approaching the red signals?
When you are pulling a heavy cargo train with Zacns the braking from the loco has basically no effect at all. The main braking will come from the Waggons. It now depends what brake settings they were in (G or P) and what kind of gradient you were on. It is very common that heavy cargo trains with only little brake percentage are limited in their speed on slopes. In the real world this is all part of the Fahrplan and the driver is being told what speed he may do where… I had a look and the consist you are talking about seems to be a 1440kg heavy train with 15 loaded Zacns waggons. This consist only has a brake percentage of 59 and would need to be driven in PZB mode "U". Max speed on a flat strech of track would be 100kph, however, on DRA you have slopes of up to 13 ‰ which would limit you to a max speed of only 85kph in order to be able to stop your train within 1000m. I would argue the behaviour you are describing sounds pretty realistic to real life...
I tried this scenario again, and I achieved the endpoint now. For the brake settings, in "G" is the brakeforce quite the same, only takes it more time to achieve the asked brakeforce. That's why in Germany there are rules how to calculate the present braking percentage. But then again, you don't always need the maximum brake. Yes, I'm familiar with the Vectron, but today only with passengertrains (Nightjet, IC Amsterdam - Berlin), but in the past I drove various freighttrains with various locomotives (BR189, BR186, G2000, G1206, Class66, BR203 (the modernised East-German V100), and the former NS 600 (for shunting...)). And I don't remember in that time I used de full brake to stop the train in a normal way. About 25km/h. Still I'm convinced that you don't need the full brake to stop for the red signal as needed in TSW.
It might be the same bug I ran into some time ago, apparently some very early wagons don't communicate with vectron correctly and their brakes never get applied, so you effectively only have loco brake..
That will not be relevant here since the scenario is on Dresden-Riesa which has up to date Simugraph physics. As to the scenario in question, I just played it and I didn't have any issues, but you have to drive it carefully. I only ever used step 4-5. 1. The train is heavy and has low BrH. For the route it doesn't exceed the Mbr (minimum brake percentage) for 100 km/h so the maximum allowed speed is 90 km/h. This makes a big difference when you get a Vr0 signal at max speed. 2. Take advantage of the very strong electric brakes that the Vectron has! You can enable the EB Boost and get 240 kN. This allows you to either brake quicker or use less air. With a heavy train and G-brakes on the locomotive (and the first 5 wagons) the responsiveness of the electric brake comes in handy. 3. The weather conditions in the scenario are poor (heavy rain) so racing up to the signal is not realistic nor wise. 4. It may just be a case of your expectations not matching reality (or the sim). At least in Sweden, the nominal/listed brake performance and maximum allowed speeds are very conservative vs what the train can do, so often a freight train will brake quite well (most trains except steel or paper unit trains are BrH > 80, I'm leaving out iron ore trains since those are a whole other ball game). In Germany this does not seem to be the case and you regularly see trains traveling at 90 km/h that would be limited to 70 km/h in Sweden. I don't know if this is the case in the Netherlands but that might be worth considering. With one exception I have not had any criticism from German freight drivers of the brake physics of the locomotives/wagons I have worked on. The exception being the Sggmrss intermodals, but this is due to the trains featured in TSW being so long (not length specifically but the number of vehicles) that you start getting into physics error territory of Simugraph (an even more extreme case are North American freight trains - basically the air flow starts getting truncated to zero so you end up with very slow BP charge rates or an extreme "head loss" effect).
