Train Sim World 3 Bremen Oldenburg International Extension Oldenburg-leer-groningen

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Contents
    • Intro
    • Pictures Ingame map and the Bridge
    • Rolling Stock
    • layered trains
    • DLC
    • Video
    • Maps
    • Final Thoughts

    Intro

    My suggestion is to extend the Bremen Oldenburg Delmenhorst route into the Netherlands via Leer & the Friesenbrücke which is out of service now due to a collision in 2015. My question is this does anyone here know what specific DMU/Diesel locomotive was used to run Bremen Delmenhorst Oldenburg Leer (DE)-Groningen Netherlands route? My guesses are at the bottom DB BR646 & DB BR232 alt paint version DR BR132 with ATB EG NG in addition to PZB. The distance between Bremen & Groningen via Leer is 173km which I took from the German language newspaper Suddeutcshe Zeitung For reference, the key highlight of the route is the Friesenbrücke which is between Leer & Groningen. This route Bremen Oldenburg Leer Groningen shares the same time era as Bremen Oldenburg. The route also known as the Wunderline and German side is maintained by DB engineering & DB Netze Dutch side is pro-rail.
    Pictures
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    Game straight line map of the Eastern segment of the route Groningen Leer Oldenburg Delmenhorst Bremen route.
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    If extended to the Netherlands via Leer then the map will say Bremen Hbf Oldenburg Leer Groningen.
    Start Point Bremen Hbf
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    Last Major Station in Germany and Startpoint of Leer-Bad Nieuwschans Groningen Line Leer Bahnhof
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    Bad Nieuwschans Dutch Border station
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    End Point Groningen Station
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    Rolling Stock
    Note both rolling stock intros take place at Training Centre as standard for TSW 3 rolling stock

    For freight service DB BR232 (Alt paint scheme DR BR 130-132) with ATB EG NG that way it can run Bremen Grolland to Groningen via Oldenburg Leer and Bad Nieuweschans the Dutch Borderstation on the Bremen Oldenburg Leer Groningen Line. Comes with the new Facnps ballast wagons. Picture is by Lothar Stockmann on Bahnbilder.de In addition to existing Zacns Laaers 560 Habbins Tagnpps and Sggmrss layered from SFS Hannover Kassel Wurzberg or standard with the route.
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    Passenger DB BR646 in the Arriva paint. Note Arriva is a Deutsche Bahn Company
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    Layered trains from Bremen Oldenburg or standard with Bremen Groningen via Leer & Oldenburg
    DB BR 425
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    This will do existing RE services to Hude from Bremen
    N-wagen Cab car & DB BR 110.3
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    Does the existing Norddreich Mole Hannover Hbf RE services with 110.3
    Press BR 155
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    Handles the freight services from Leer to Bremen via Oldenburg. In the case of a Groningen freight service Press 155 will replace the DB BR 232 ATB EG NG PZB version at Oldenburg Yard

    DB BR 363 If Riesa Dresden Tharandter Rampe & Ruhr Sieg Nord are owned these will do Oldenburg Leer & Bremen shunting services
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    Blue version Deutsche Bundesbahn
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    DLC
    Notes: Both Einheitselok 150 & 141 tutorials take place in the training centre as Standard on all TSW 3 routes. This includes the Diesel 648

    DB BR 150 The heavy freight version of DB BR110.3 that is standard on the route comes with Rens Steel/Copper Wire Transporters taken by Lothar Stockmann on Bahnbilder.de Slps railway track transporter wagon also by Lothar Stockmann on Bahnbilder.de and Uagnpps Sugar Hopper Wagon this is related to the Wheat and Grain Tagnpps that is standard with the route.
    Comes in two colors Green paint DB BR150 091 & Red Colour DB BR150 186. In some cases the DB BR150 will run with N-wagen
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    DB BR141 the push-pull regional version of DB BR110.3 standard with the route. Has a nickname the knallfrosch due to its tap changer system making noises. The SOurce is from German Wikipedia. Comes with a new cab car the LHB type or the corridor type seen in British Electrostar EMU in the game these are 375 377 & 387/2. Designated as the Bn. Comes in three colors Traffic Red S-Bahn Paint 141 248-5 and Green seen here on DB BR141 228
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    DB Baureihe 648 This DMU is part of the Alstom Lint family and comes in DB Traffic red paint and can also layer to Ottawa O Train if that were to be made since it's the only route in North America to use PZB. The example is from the Koln Rhein-Ruhr Region BGR version will lack the decals On the route, this will do the Bremen Oldenburg diesel DMU service pattern as the RE19 to Wilhelmshaven from Bremen Hbf. This is due to the fact DB BR648 is not equipped with the Dutch ATB system for the Bad Nieuwschans Groningen section which is what the DB BR646 is equipped with and can run the whole route.


    Cab View Videos
    International Section Groningen Leer

    2nd section Leer Oldenburg Bremen German Express Driver

    Maps
    Groningen area
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    International Section
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    Leer Oldenburg Bremen section
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    2nd is the real-life map of Bremen Delmenhorst Oldenburg TSW 3 in-game route
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    Final Thoughts
    To sum it up Bremen Oldenburg with the international section Oldenburg Leer Groningen will make Bremen Oldenburg busy with international services to Groningen from Bremen Hbf passengers. Followed by freight Bremen Gbf/ Bremen Grolland to Groningen squeeze through the passenger services and existing freight services that run through Oldenburg via Delmenhorst & Hude. For some freight services, these can have their Diesel locomotives replaced by Press 155 which counts for the Red colour Power surge 1550 km. Also, the DB BR232 that comes with the route will count towards the RSN version if Added. Finally, Bremen Oldenburg Extended to the Netherlands Groningen via Leer does accomplish introducing the Netherlands using diesel traction from an existing station in TSW 3 Oldenburg Hbf and its freight yard. While also exploring more of Lower Saxony and finally arriving at the dutch province of Groningen which was also named after the City of Groningen. This is where the Bremen Oldenburg Leer Groningen Route ends. Overall this is the first reason why Oldenburg Leer Groningen should be added as a Standalone route that can be merged with Bremen Oldenburg. Additionally, if Bremen Oldenburg were to get the SEHS extended treatment version to become Bremen Oldenburg Leer Groningen the same reasons stated above can also convince DTG to make an international route from both Bremen & Oldenburg Hbf. With the arrival of Linke Rheinstrecke owners of Bremen Groningen when made get DB Baureihe 150 141 layer to the Linke Rheinstrecke Koblenz Bingen Mainz Frankfurt am Main Hbf due to those trains operating there in the 1990s. In return, Linke Rheinstrecke gives DB Baureihe 103 IC trips from Leer Ostfriesland Bremen Hauptbahnhof via Oldenburg Hbf to this route.
     
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  2. kjeld.dejager

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    Should defentily comming the DB 646 is actully GTW-D (that is what we call it in dutch. and it should the contain the branch line to veendam.
     
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  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If the Veendam branch line were to be added does it actually have Services towards Germany Leer Oldenburg Delmenhorst Bremen via the Border station Bad Nieuweschans or only running to Veendam from Groningen?
     
  4. Woroszyl The NS 2000

    Woroszyl The NS 2000 Well-Known Member

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    Perfect suggestion tbh.
     
  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I had to do this because some of the German stations are already prepared for an extension towards the Netherlands like Duisburg on Hauptbahnhof Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr since it's the endpoint of the Amsterdam Utrecht Arnhem Zevenaar Emmerich am Rhein Oberhausen Duisburg Hollandstrecke. That's why I chose Bremen Delmenhorst Oldenburg Leer Deutschland Niederlande Bad Nieuwschans Groningen that's the extension for Bremen Oldenburg. Owners of the route will expect heavy traffic along the whole section Leer Oldenburg Delmenhorst Bremen basically sandwiching themselves between a regional service and an international train to the Netherlands Groningen to or from Bremen Hbf.
     
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  6. kjeld.dejager

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    only to Groningen
     
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  7. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    It probably should have run to those extents in the first place!
     
  8. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct what would have happened inside Oldenburg Hbf you drop the diesel locomotive that ran the freight train from Groningen via Leer at Oldenburg then get the electric locomotive that is sitting at the yard at Oldenburg Hbf for Rbf Bremen Grörpelingen. That should make the hours around 07:00-09:00 more busy with the Groningen Bremen Hbf regional behind a locomotive move Oldenburg Frankfurt am Main then a Norddeich Mole Leipzig IC56 service Nordenham Bremen RE Freight Train Emden Hafen Rbf Bremen Grörpelingen or Rbf Hamburg Maschen Freight service.
     

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