Busiest Route In Ts4?

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  1. Triton_Great

    Triton_Great New Member

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    Hey Guys,

    Any suggestions on busy routes?
    I like the game but always green signals doesn't feel like reality, I want routes in which there are mix of red or yellow or such to make the game feel more realistic.
    If you know any specific Game service like 2B21 in london cummuter that's also fine.

    Thanks!
     
  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    BML, SEHS and LIRR 2 are a few examples off the top of my head. SEHS requires the RHTT, MML, LGV, Class 700, ROG, SOS DLCs for full variety (there's probably some I've forgotten). BML comes with just the 377 and 387 but the route is busy, the 387 in mornings and evenings also has a varied service pattern. LIRR has been remastered and although I don't own the route, it's on my watch list. BPo is also a great route.

    Also, check out this thread: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/awesome-tsw-service-mode-runs.32010/. This is the go to for a timetable (and some scenarios) run that isn't the average A to B green light run, from most TSW routes.

    Other routes such as NTP (the timetable in TSW is actually slightly busier than the route was in real life, especially with the BR Heavy Freight Pack) and TVL aren't as busy, but the traction used makes for interesting gameplay. ECML, if high speed interests you, is also worth a good look.

    That is just UK routes (except LIRR which is a US route) as they're the ones I focus on. But German routes are also some of the best for variety because of the amount of layering and substitution between them.
     
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    Hello!
    If you want German routes, you probably like Dresden - Riesa, Salzburg - Rosenheim and Bremen - Oldenburg. Maybe you also like Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr that´s quite busy too.
     
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  4. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    With the cargo line packs MML is the route that probably feels most like the real life route, in terms of service levels. Saying that Blackpool Branches as well.
     
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    Dresden-Riesa is amongst the busiest routes in TSW so far, but Joe himself said that the upcoming new timetable for Cologne-Aachen is gonna make KAH the busiest route of all routes in TSW, as it has over 4000 services (counting AI too, if this was player services only that'd be wild) and ongoing.
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    This is a bit of a misconception... in reality, they try and make it so that snarlups DONT happen often. Speaking with Drivers from around Europe, they've confirmed to me that they see greens significantly more than anything else. I appreciate that's not fun, and as a player in the game we want more challenge to our rides - and I totally agree with that, but, it is less realistic to have an abundance of cautions and stops.

    Just to set expectations here - I believe the large majority of those services are AI only and all about beefing up what's going on in Koln in particular (which is now incredibly busy) - he's adding some extra services that weren't possible at the time of launch I believe as they needed a DMU but I wouldn't expect playable service count to be going ballistic like this :)

    Matt.
     
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    Depends on the line and context, and of course if something goes wrong and delays happen then there will be far less green signals...
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    But, that does not happen every hour of every day.

    Delays, cancellations etc are exceptional circumstances.
     
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    I'm very curious to see the impact the upcoming Cathcart remaster and loco DLC will have in this regard, judging by the map comparison from a few days ago.

    I imagine not too much will change once you're deep in the south side but Glasgow Central itself, and the absolute jungle of junctions leading to it, could be about to become very busy.
     
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    A BR 186 for SKA line for freight services could be amazing idk why skyhook choose SKA with a BR 187 in real life BR 186 does 50% or 60% of the freight train run to aachen because the most freight train are to belguim or Netherlands BR 186 could be really cool and replace BR 185s on a lot of route in tsw
     
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    trains at Horrem
     
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    Small delays of a minute or two are common even on the best-run railways...
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    99% of the time, trains run to time. Small delays do happen, but not enough to have a big enough impact to be noticed.

    Small delays don't always cause a backlog of trains waiting at a red signal, usually it just left the station a few seconds late, or the driver happened to slow down a touch too soon.

    When a noticeable delay occurs, usually it is the result of engineering works (which are timetabled for), signal failures, landslips and the like.
     
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    Depends on where they are!
     
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    Only if things worked like this all the time! Not discrediting what you are saying (assuming you're using hyperbole), but as per above it depends on the location, and there a couple locations which jump out in my head where if you are only a minute late, you'll be 10+ down by your destination.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Well, where I work any delays don't cause much of a problem. Usually its just a train not running to where it should.

    Although I am always hearing of delays elsewhere but I don't really see any knock on effect for most of them.
     
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    The 99% part was hyperbolic ;)

    But from my experience, where I work any delays are minimal unless there is a signal failure or something similar.

    Then again, I'm speaking from my experience working at a terminus on a secondary line, so the delays I encounter don't usually affect anywhere else, apart from the train maybe not running to its intended destination.
     
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    Yeah, I imagine a secondary line terminus has plenty of room to recover from delays. On a busy commuter line where trains are packed in as close as possible...
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I can imagine it would be a nightmare. Thankfully I don't have to put up with it, it'd make my job 10x harder.
     
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    Ah yes, a very different story then.
     
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    München - Augsburg busy?!...
    Which trains do you have there?
    As by default you have the ICE 3 with the green strip, and the BR 423.
    But the last one, are only seen near Munich.
    From Augsburg you only have the ICE 3.
    So it is almost empty.
     
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    Yes, the route itself is not busy but i thought Munich Hbf is.
     
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    If you own the appropriate other German routes you will also get 146s with Dostos, 425s (these are RBs and REs and so run the whole route) and freight.
     
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    I would suggest London Commuter with the Brighton Main Line, then add the Class 700 services mod which adds greatly to the BML (obviously you need the 700 dlc too) with all the real Thameslink services. You will find amber and red lights everywhere as trains move around in narrow slots. The first time I played it I hit a red at high speed because I was so used to ambers meaning nothing! It really is authentic and you have to drive with care and react to the AWS for real.
     
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    And layers don’t work in old gen.
     
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    Munich hbf has a tenth of the trains it would have in real life
     
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    Thanks solicitr.
    But what route provides Dostos to AUG-MUN?
    I have lot of German routes with them, but I do not see it there...
    Or it is only for PC?
    I am on PS
     
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    Ps5 has ps4 does not
     
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    Last gen don't get layers on the route. Anything that came before rush hour uses main spessart bahn as the main layer for the 146 and dostos which came with the 146. Almost every German route has dostos as well
     
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    At Leicester, I often see trains (and been on many) that get yellows or reds north of Leicester heading south, Often because a Cross Country service has come off the Peterborough line a few minutes down or an EMR service is delayed at Leicester, it can be quite interesting to watch but I imagine a total nightmare for rail staff.
     

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