now that we have the 170 and the 710 in the game let's see a Class 357 and 720 with a route featured. This route is the London to Shoeburyness Line that does have the Class 357 and sometimes the Class 720 Aventra. This line is a bit short and will have lots of traffic on the Barking Area. We will have two stations in London. Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street. The route is either set in 2023 or 2024. The Class 357 Electrostar is similar to the Class 170 and 171 Turbostars. Those type of trains are on the Fife Circle Line and was great to see a Turbostar in the game. Dovetail will now have to look into this the put it into the game
There's already a very detailed suggestion that's still on page 1 of the Suggestions: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/c2c-london-tilbury-and-southend-line.79395/ I don't think though that you'd get Liverpool Street at the moment if this line is ever made, not until it's created in game for routes that use it more often (ditto Stratford). And the line is 'London, Tilbury and Southend', not Shoeburyness, to give it its non-c2c name.
Couldn't agree more mate we deserve it after hundreds and thousands of people suggesting LTS and how hard can it be its a perfect size to do the whole line as it doesn't take long in real life to get from Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness and like charliejay801 said it won't be difficult because they already modelled the 170 and 710 including sounds as the class 375 has the exact same sounds that come from a class 357. A lot of people have also suggested the class 387 but they clearly don't know that they were sold of to GWR and Great Northern and for Rail freight they would have class 66 or class 70 in freightliner or EWS livery as that is regularly seen around the Thurrock area. Finally, on other routes we have seen NPC trains such as EMR trains leaving St Pancras on South-eastern High Speed and class 66 alongside the Bakerloo line on the West Coast Mainline, so for the East London areas of LTS would be some Overground 710s at Barking and Upminster as there isnt any subsurface tube trains yet in the game or DLR.
You don’t get his point. He’s talking about 170’s because they are near identical to 357’s and for the 375’s he was only talking about the sounds not the train itself. Also 376’s only run on Southeastern.
The 170s only share a similar bodyshell. Literally everything else is different. All electrostars sound similar, sounds don't have to be sourced from the 375. And yes, I meant 357, not 376.
It would be far better to base a Class 357 from the 375/377 but with a new cab without the gangway. Class 170 cars are 23m long, Class 357/375/377/379/387 cars are 20m long. You've got the opposite problem with the Aventras, Class 720 cars are 23m long, Class 710 are 20m long. As for the route, it's one of the most suggested on these threads. I'd happily do without Liverpool Street if the many freight sidings and branches are included instead. Then the route would have a fantastic mixture of passenger and freight. Small driving turns, long end-to-end runs, shunting and longer freight runs as far as Woodgrange Park.
Wivenswold thank you that was a good explanation I didn't actually know that I thought Electro stars were the same length as turbo stars, so maybe the 170 cab could be slightly re-modelled to be in the right shape of the 357 because I know its not bang on the same like the headlights are the older style, and the bumper thing that the coupler is placed in the middle of is bigger. One day, I just hope sometime LTS will be in the game every roadmap I prey that is listed but it never is, but most people found it strange that there isn't any Italian routes yet so I thought maybe there might be a licensing issue but Trenitalia routes, but in train simulator classic there is the Italian Trenitalia and back In 2017 Trenitalia UK bought c2c from national express, Then came out dovetail games train simulator 2018 that included c2c in the game when being owned by Trenitalia, so if they have no problem with it being in train sim world 4, then they should give it a go.
