Cajon Pass - Struggling Up The Gradient

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  1. oliver.biggs2

    oliver.biggs2 New Member

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    Hi,

    I'm running service L-SBDHES3-05a, mixed freight to Hesperia on a base PS4 so train formations are smaller. However, I'm struggling up the 2.2% gradient out of San Bernadino and I know it doesn't really drop until I reach the summit which is a fair distance away. I'm crawling along at 10mph. 2 locos at the front and a mid DPU so I've got banking comm turned on.

    Is this realistic? Would trains in real life just crawl along at a snails pace for miles on end? I feel like the train needs more locos.
     
  2. james.caton

    james.caton Member

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    I've just ran this service on the ps5 and i was getting 18 to 20 mph up the grade. The speeds i was doing was probably normal but 10mph does seem slow.
     
  3. FallenAngel00me

    FallenAngel00me Well-Known Member

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    I'm doing the G-SDGABQ5-04 from San Bernadino on ps5, train has 6 locos, 90 wagons, 14,555.5 tons.

    I get on the 2.2% incline and no amount of power keeps me moving. Banking comm is on.

    Edit. Got it moving again, but weird how at full power, it went from 35mph to 0 quickly
     
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  4. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    That's wheel slip. You don't want to apply all the power all at once. Got to be patient, wait for the brakes to fully release and turn on banking comm before you touch anything and make sure switches are on and everything set up quickly
     
  5. CoyoteMan

    CoyoteMan Active Member

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    For those having issues with getting up the gradient, its the game not you. Some of the trains are under powered. I reported this during the early access and the support team never followed up.
     
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  6. james.caton

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    When I left San Bernadino it was a nice sunny day but when i was at the summit I was in a blizzard. Do you get blizzard conditions on the Pass in early September, did not seem right to me.
     
  7. FallenAngel00me

    FallenAngel00me Well-Known Member

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    I had no wheels wheelslip and as I said, Banking comm was on.
     
  8. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see. I must have misread your comment cuz I was thinking it was in an instant. You lost speed over time going up the gradient. But yea, from what I've found in the forums, it seems some runs are underpowered
     
  9. oliver.biggs2

    oliver.biggs2 New Member

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    Unfortunately the service came to an end. It started raining and I couldn't get the train past 3mph without wheel slip.

    Thanks for all your replies, at least I know its the game and not me doing something wrong lol.
     
  10. I found that as soon as I hit the grade if I go straight into notch 6 this prevents wheelslip, then constantly flicking between notch 6 and 7 I can stay at around 18mph.
     
  11. christopher.p.scott42

    christopher.p.scott42 New Member

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    I was able to find a work around, although I'm not sure how happy BNSF would be about it.

    The helper loco doesn't appear to be helping at all. So prior to setting off from San Bernardino, I set the automatic and independent brakes to 100%, went back to the helper loco, set it up and throttled it up to 6. Then went back to the two locos up front, headed out and got up to speed, then "headed out" of the cab, floated back to the helper and put the hammer down to 8. The result was I was able to get up the Cajon Pass grade with full throttle doing between 16-19mph. No wheel slip. Close to the summit, I headed out back out from the cab, floated back to the helper loco and throttled it to idle. The rest of the service was just using dynamic brake to keep speed controlled and headed down to Hesperia.

    Hope this helps - I like to complete all the timetable services and this one was bugging me!
     
  12. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    You literally necroed a 2 year old post, I don't think they would be having issues for this long.
     
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  13. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    The Dynamic weather is too dynamic goes all over the place ..shouldnt be snow there in early September. Usually its dry arid desert weather most of the year ,most of rain or snow falls during the winter when they get those storm s off the pacific.ocean ..i usually turn dynamic weather off or set custom weather ..even on other routes its the same get too much variable weather on dynamic so again i just turn it to custom or off
     

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