Route Carstairs Line: Glasgow To Edinburgh + Lanark

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  1. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Hello all, TrainGeek08 here, and today I am suggesting the Carstairs Line for Train Sim World 4 so we can have a Desiro and the Dusty Bin enter the TSW franchise :)

    Route Information:
    The Glasgow–Edinburgh via Carstairs line is a main railway route which connects the Scottish cities of Glasgow and Edinburgh, by means of their respective sections of the West Coast Main Line (WCML).
    Along with the Shotts line, the Falkirk line, and the Helensburgh to Edinburgh route via Airdrie and Bathgate, the line is one of five direct electrified rail links between Glasgow and Edinburgh, and is frequently used by passenger and freight traffic. Passenger services are operated by ScotRail, Avanti West Coast, CrossCountry, London North Eastern Railway and TransPennine Express with freight services operated by DB Cargo, Freightliner and Direct Rail Services.


    Route Map:
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    Stock included in base route:
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    The British Rail Class 380 'Desiro' in ScotRail livery

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    The British Rail Class 320 'Dusty Bin' in ScotRail livery

    Training (In Training Center):

    Class 320 Introduction
    Class 380 Introduction

    Scenarios:

    Glasgow Dessie: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive this Class 380 from Edinburgh Waverley to Glasgow Central via Carstairs on a rainy day

    Dusty Lanark: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive this Class 320 from Glasgow Central to Lanark, enjoy some Dusty Bin thrash on the WCML

    Edinburgh Return: (Difficulty - 3)
    A snow storm has hit the Central Belt of Scotland so it is causing disruption and causing trains to back up, drive this Class 380 from Glasgow Central to Edinburgh Waverley and back whilst battling both the elements and the backed-up traffic

    From the Low Level: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive this Class 320 from Rutherglen to Newton where the train will continue via the Hamilton Circle to Motherwell but you will be returning to Glasgow Central as a passenger

    Timetable:

    Here is the May 2019 Working Timetable for this route:
    (You are interested in sections GA01 & GA02 for the Carstairs Line and the WCML into Glasgow Central and also section GC01 for the Edinburgh branch of the WCML)
    2019-05 WTT GA | Network Rail Corporate Archive
    2019-05 WTT GC | Network Rail Corporate Archive


    Potential DLC, Layers, Stations, POI & Mastery Rewards on Pages 2 & 3...
     
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  2. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

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    the class 700 is part of the desiro family
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Potential DLC:

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    The British Rail Class 92 + Mk5 coaches in Caledonian Sleeper livery

    Training (In Training Center):
    Class 92 Introduction


    Scenarios:

    The Lowlander: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive this Class 92 on the Lowlander Sleeper from Glasgow Central to Carstairs where the Edinburgh portion will be added to the train

    Split Up: (Difficulty - 1)
    The northbound Lowlander has arrived at Carstairs for splitting up into the Edinburgh portion and the Glasgow portion, split the two formations up then drive this Class 92 from Carstairs to Edinburgh

    Edinburgh to the Depot: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive this empty Caledonian Sleeper set back to Polmadie Car MD in Glasgow for servicing prior to heading back down south this evening


    Timetable:

    Incorporated into base routes' timetable

    Layers:

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    The British Rail Class 801 'Azuma' (ECML) for the Glasgow to London (and vice-versa) service plus ECS moves to/from Polmadie Car MD

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    The British Rail Class 385 'AT200' (EDN) for substitution on Lanark and Inverclyde services from Glasgow and for North Berwick plus Edinburgh-Glasgow Queen Street/Central (via Shotts) or Dunblane services out of Edinburgh Waverley

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    The British Rail Class 66 'Shed' (SEHS/ECML) for freight operations or RHTT services along the route


    Stations, POI & Mastery Rewards on Page 3...
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    (Principal) Stations:

    Glasgow Central:
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    Glasgow Central (Scottish Gaelic: Glaschu Mheadhain) is one of two principal mainline rail terminals in Glasgow, Scotland. The railway station was opened by the Caledonian Railway on 1 August 1879 and is one of 20 managed by Network Rail. It is the northern terminus of the West Coast Main Line (397 miles (640 km) north of London Euston). As well as being Glasgow's principal inter-city terminus for services to England, Central also serves the southern suburbs of the Greater Glasgow conurbation, as well as the Ayrshire and Clyde coasts. The other main station in Glasgow is Glasgow Queen Street.

    Motherwell:
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    Motherwell railway station is a railway station in Motherwell North Lanarkshire, Scotland. It lies on the West Coast Main Line (WCML), and is served also by Argyle Line trains of the Glasgow suburban railway network. It is the penultimate stop on the northbound WCML before Glasgow. There are four platforms of various length in use at Motherwell. The station is located next to the town's main shopping arcade, Motherwell Shopping Centre.

    Lanark:
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    Lanark railway station is in South Lanarkshire, Scotland, and is managed by ScotRail and is the southern terminus of the Argyle Line. The station is located on Bannatyne Street, Lanark, which is staffed part-time (open Monday-Saturday 06:20 until 20:25) and has a car park with 31 spaces, including two disabled bays.

    Carstairs:
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    Carstairs railway station serves the village of Carstairs in South Lanarkshire, Scotland and is a major junction station on the West Coast Main Line (WCML), situated close to the point at which the lines from London Euston and Edinburgh to Glasgow Central merge. Constructed originally by the Caledonian Railway, the station is operated today by ScotRail and is also served by one TransPennine Express trains service per day between Manchester Airport and Glasgow Central. All other services by TransPennine Express and services operated by Avanti West Coast, Caledonian Sleeper, CrossCountry and London North Eastern Railway pass the station, but do not stop.

    Haymarket:
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    Haymarket railway station is the second largest railway station in Edinburgh, Scotland, after Waverley railway station. The station serves as a major commuter and long-distance destination, located near the city centre, in the West End. Trains from the station serve much of Scotland, including Fife and Glasgow, as well as suburban lines to the east, and the East Coast Main Line through to London King's Cross. It is the seventh busiest railway station in Scotland.

    Edinburgh Waverley:
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    Edinburgh Waverley railway station (also known simply as Waverley; Scottish Gaelic: Waverley Dhùn Èideann) is the principal railway station serving Edinburgh, Scotland. It is the second busiest station in Scotland, after Glasgow Central. The station serves as the northern terminus of the East Coast Main Line, 393 miles 13 chains (393.16 miles; 632.7 kilometres) from London King's Cross, although some trains operated by London North Eastern Railway continue to other Scottish destinations beyond Edinburgh.

    Points of Interest (POI):

    Polmadie Car MD:
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    Polmadie Traction and Rolling Stock Maintenance Depot (T&RSMD), also known as Polmadie Depot, Polmadie Traction Depot and Polmadie Carriage Maintenance Depot (Glasgow) is a railway maintenance depot on the West Coast Main Line in the Polmadie district of Glasgow, Scotland. The depot is run by Alstom, who maintain Avanti West Coast's fleet of Class 390 Pendolinos built by Alstom, and Class 221 Super Voyagers, originally built by Bombardier. The depot is also used for daytime storage, maintenance and cleaning of Caledonian Sleeper stock. The depot was originally built in 1879 by the Caledonian Railway.

    Haymarket Depot:
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    Haymarket TMD is a railway traction maintenance depot situated inside Edinburgh, Scotland, next to Haymarket railway station and Murrayfield Stadium. The depot is operated by ScotRail. The depot code is HA.

    Edinburgh Castle:
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    Edinburgh Castle is a historic castle in Edinburgh, Scotland. It stands on Castle Rock, which has been occupied by humans since at least the Iron Age, although the nature of the early settlement is unclear. There has been a royal castle on the rock since at least the reign of David I in the 12th century, and the site continued to be a royal residence until 1633. From the 15th century, the castle's residential role declined, and by the 17th century it was principally used as military barracks with a large garrison. Its importance as a part of Scotland's national heritage was recognised increasingly from the early 19th century onwards, and various restoration programmes have been carried out over the past century and a half.

    Mastery Rewards:
    Stage 1:
    12 Scottish-Themed Decals for use in the Livery Editor.

    Stage 2: Christmas Market on Princes Street in Edinburgh.
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    I hope you have enjoyed this suggestion, if you have, put your thoughts below as always, I've been TG08 as ever, enjoy the rest of your day and goodbye everyone :)
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, so it is... I completely forgot about that during the making of this suggestion, thanks for reminding me nevertheless ;)
     
  6. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic idea sure could use more Scotland routes
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, it would be great to have another Scottish route sometime in the future :)
     
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  8. AirbourneAlex

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    There's a lot of different operators with lots of different train types on this route so I don't think it would be able to feel totally true-to-life without needing to represent all those services from the get-go. The route itself isn't of particular interest either, as there isn't really anything notorious or special about it. We need a diesel route next like the Fife Circle line, not something that is very similar to E-G via Falkirk.
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it isn't the best route out there without lots of layers of any kind and I think Fife Circle would work way more than this route would :)
     
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    Yeeeessss!!! Love this suggestion! You should set it a year or two before the 385 came into service to get as much as possible out of the 380. Or when 385's were very new in service even. You could potentially have two different timetables:
    • A reduced backdated one making the most out of the 380 and 320
    • A Full Timetable with the Class 385 helping out on peak times alongside the 380 and 320.

    It's a very good suggestion and I'd love to see this in the game! If done right this could be the best (Scottish) route in the game! :D
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    I love the reduced and full timetable idea mate, I do agree that route would be a good route but as AirbourneAlex said above, this route without the appropriate layers e.g. a Pendolino or a 397 for the WCML traffic wouldn't do well ;)
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be a nice enough route with or without. ;)
    Besides, there's always layers from future routes. :)
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, there are possible layers from future routes which would populate it a bit more after those routes release :)
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea overall and for owners of this route with Class 92 DLC you can use that on SEHS for HS1 freight to Ashford since Class 92 is TVM-430 equipped.
     
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    Yes, the Class 92 could layer onto SEHS to add regular freight services on HS1 :)
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if it would be possible to do both the Carstairs and shotts line
     
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    That is a good question but I personally would have them as separate lines just in case you want a pre-electrified Shotts Line ;)
     
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