Route Chatham Mainline & Medway Valley Line

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  1. Asheix

    Asheix Well-Known Member

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    Introduction
    Good morning, driver!

    Players of Train Simulator Classic will know this route already as it features in the older game, but I would love to see a newer, up-to-date Unreal Engine made version. I have included all the routes that are featured to save on doing one rail line and then making another post for extension ideas should it enter service in the game.

    The inspiration for the route not only comes from being a fan of the Chatham Mainline and Medway Valley line from TSC, but I recently travelled from Orpington to Rochester via Bromley South for the Rochester Dickensian Festival. Í have even referenced said event as a scenario idea further down in this suggestion.
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    A photo I took of a Thameslink Class 700 Desiro from a fairly knackered-looking Class 465 at Orpington on December 2nd 2023.

    The Routes
    London Victoria - Ramsgate. Duration: 1 hour 55 minutes
    • Bromley South
    • Rochester
    • Chatham
    • Gillingham
    • Rainham
    • Sittingbourne
    • Faversham
    • Whitstable
    • Chestfield & Swalecliffe
    • Herne Bay
    • Birchington
    • Westgate On Sea
    • Margate
    • Broadstairs
    • Dumpton Park
    • Ramsgate
    London Victoria - Dover Priory. Duration: 1 hour 58 minutes
    • Bromley South
    • Longfield
    • Meopham
    • Rochester
    • Chatham
    • Gillingham
    • Rainham
    • Newington
    • Sittingbourne
    • Teynham
    • Faversham
    • Selling
    • Canterbury East
    • Bekesbourne
    • Adisham
    • Aylesham
    • Snowdown
    • Shepherds Well
    • Kearsney
    • Dover Priory
    Dover Priory - Faversham. Duration: 44 minutes
    • Kearsney
    • Shepherds Well
    • Snowdown
    • Aylesham
    • Adisham
    • Bekesbourne
    • Canterbury East
    • Selling
    • Faversham
    Orpington - London Victoria. Duration: 39 minutes
    • Petts Wood
    • Bickley
    • Bromley South
    • Shortlands
    • Beckenham Junction
    • Kent House
    • Penge East
    • Sydenham Hill
    • West Dulwich
    • Herne Hill
    • Brixton
    • London Victoria
    Paddock Wood - Strood. Duration: 54 minutes
    • Beltring
    • Yalding
    • Wateringbury
    • East Farleigh
    • Maidstone West
    • Maidstone Barracks
    • Aylesford
    • New Hythe
    • Snodland
    • Halling
    • Cuxton
    • Strood
    Rolling Stock

    The community favourite, the Electrostar 375
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    Class 395 Javelin
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    Class 465 Networker
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    Class 466 Networker
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    Class 700 Desiro
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    Class 377 Electrostar
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    Possible Scenario Ideas
    1. Bah, Humbug! "It was cold, bleak, biting weather: foggy withal..." Drive a busy service from London Victoria to Rochester taking passengers to the town's Dickensian Festival and Christmas Market.
    2. Ramsgate Sands. Drive tourists from London Victoria to Ramsgate.
    3. Dover Commuter. Drive a busy morning service from Dover Priory to London Victoria.
    4. Faversham Faults. You are driving on a delayed schedule due to signalling issues just outside of Faversham, expect further delays, speed restrictions, and a plethora of red signals as you drive from London Victoria to Dover Priory.
    5. Snodland Snow. Heavy snow has been forecast for today and could impact your journey (making use of dynamic weather). Cancellations, speed restrictions, and delays could occur as you drive between Strood and Paddock Wood.
    I do wonder as to whether a DLC of this size could work in the game owing to its scale which pretty much covers most of Kent. As mentioned above, I thought one big suggestion would be more beneficial than requesting a back-and-forth line of London Victoria - Dover Priory. I would like to have more flexibility in routes that have close proximity to one another rather than one terminus to another. If I wanted to ride as a passenger to go from Orpington to Rochester, change to go down to Strood and then Paddock Wood, then I can with this route suggestion. It would be like merging East Coastway and London Commuter into one rather than keeping them separate.

    To end, I would assume rightly or wrongly that much of the community will have the trains already for this route, and I would speculate as to whether it could be discounted for those who have the required assets.
     
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  2. MINIakaMINIpop

    MINIakaMINIpop Active Member

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    I love this idea tbh
     
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  3. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion
     
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  4. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to say no to any route which goes between Rochester and Faversham as that is already a separate route in itself (unless it ended at Rochester from London or ended at Faversham from Ramsgate.
     
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  5. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    This would be good only if a modular system was in place to snap parts of routes together that overlapped, otherwise the line between Rochester and Faversham would be duplicated without the ability to continue on from SEHS onto a CML style route.

    Also I doubt the full CML/MVL would be represented as part of a single route DLC, it would have to be done in segments. The first and obvious choice would be extending on from SEHS between Rochester and London Victoria, with the Hitachi-motored Networkers (Classes 465/0 and 465/1) as well as the first batch Electrostar subclasses (Classes 375/6 & 375/7).
     
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  6. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    I dont think this should be an extension though as it would be DTG extending SEHS a second time it would be a good route by itself but this would also be nice to see
     
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  7. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    As much as I'd like to see this route to these locations, the amount of complaints dtg would get for making what is basically another extension for sehs would be monumental. As such it's unlikely to be made. Smaller new segments may be made like the line towards dover, etc.

    Nice suggestion though! :)
     
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  8. johnmcglade17

    johnmcglade17 Active Member

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    Great idea My name is john My favourite route is southeastern high-speed I have been trying to Get Ramsgate In the game With your support I think we might just do it
     
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  9. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Ok You aint serious with right?
    First this is already in tsw and I dont think that this big thing would be implemented anytime soon, The whole timetable would need to be reconstructed and a big one would need to be implemented and would crash the game withing seconds, esp with the st pancras- faversham & ashford international already in, if anything the orpington-london victoria should be added in along with the 466, 377/2, 375/6
    not to mention that the 395, 375/9, 700 and 465 are already in so mate you gotta reconsider
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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  11. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    If we get a class 59...
    I'll cry.
    It's basically dtg having some lame excuse to say, "oh, but we didn't use a 66! *evil laugh*"
     
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  12. Asheix

    Asheix Well-Known Member

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    If I wasn't serious, I wouldn't have wasted my time in creating this post.

    London St Pancras and Ashford International are NOT part of the route. I literally listed every station for each line, and neither of them are present.

    If you read the entire post, you would have seen that I mentioned the trains that are already in the game, with a possible solution for that. :|
     
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  13. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Ok so are you saying that DT Should make this whole route on its own?
    INNNNTERRESSTTING.............
    Im not sure about that....
     
  14. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You included the section between Rochester and Faversham. That isn't going to be created again.
     
  15. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what i mean
     
  16. irickroll#4031

    irickroll#4031 Active Member

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    keep it the same. just add the class 707
     

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