China Railways Hxd1!career Or No Career Scenarios?

Ìt says on Steam that this loco have career scenarios but looking on the reviews they say there are no career scenarios so how is it you who have it?
Thinking about buying it.

 

Have you tried looking for standard scenarios?

 

I do not play standard or quick.
Only play career.

 

Standard scenarios are pretty much the same as career scenarios, so I think you're limiting your options there.

 

In standard scenarios you can drive as fast as you want without getting any penalties.
Career scenarios make the driving realistic.

 

So what penalties do you get when speeding in a Career Scenario?
And what difference does it make?

 

If you have the Longhai Railway then Buy the loco and after installing you can see if the scenarios are Career or not.

If you and not happy you can apply for a refund thru Steam and the DLC will be removed and you get your money back.

 

Had to refund it as there are no career scenarios for Longhai Railway: Lingbao - Mianchi Route Add-On as it says on Steam.

 

As working on the railway you want it to be as realistic as it can be so that is why I only play career scenarios.
Driving train you have a timetable to follow or atleast try to follow.

 

You may want to consider learning how to convert standard scenarios to career or Timetabled---the latter giving you the timetabling you want but not the scoring.

 

The problem with Standard scenarios is that they will hard fail the objective and therefore the whole scenario if you are late. Career scenarios on the other hand start deducting 100’s if not 1000’s of points for lateness or speeding etc. but so long as you hit the objective and do your station calls etc the scenario will complete and get the green tick.

 

Just as in real life then.....

 

I would like to mention that the Longhai Railway route, certainly has got career scenarios

 

On Steam! The HDX1 Loco also comes with career scenarios for Longhai Railway route
https://store.steampowered.com/app/...or_China_Railways_HXD1/?curator_clanid=958135

 

I think I've figured out the issue, despite what I've stated above.

I have just purchased the Chinese Railways HXD1 locomotive Save 30% on Train Simulator: China Railways HXD1 on Steam (steampowered.com)

The career scenarios are actually under 'standard' scenarios for Longhai Railway



Proof the addon is installed - as it also comes with standard scenarios for South West China route

 

I know this.
I have the route but the loco HXD1 is not showed with career scenarios.
If they are placed in standard then they are not career scenarios.
That loco you are showing is HXD1C.

 

I understand what you meant after I purchased the HXD1 locomotive. I am still going to keep it because I have been wanting to purchase it myself since it got released!

Hopefully, Just Trains can fix it. It would be great to have the scenarios as career and not as standard.

 

I refunded it.
Gonna wait until you can play it in career.

 

If it ever gets fixed by Just Trains!

 

I just sent Just Trains and email explaining the issue! Hopefully, they can fix it.

 

Career Scenarios allow you to speed to keep time - something that is not allowed on a real railway.

 

You can't speed in career scenarios because then you lose points and also you have to keep the speedlimit but in quickplay and standard you can drive 200 km/h even that the speedlimit is only 100km/h.

 

What stops you from keeping to speed limits anyway no matter what scenario type?

And I haven't seen a score deduction HUD on a real loco yet.

 

And as already stated, you can lose 100,000 points in a career scenario and still get a green tick, so long as you fulfill the objectives. As happened with my run around Berlin Ringbahn yesterday evening.

 

So, is the objective of the game to score points, arrive on time, or something ridiculous like just have fun?

 

Well I don't take much notice of the scoring, but the green tick (or bronze/silver/gold star) against the scenario is useful for showing which scenarios you've completed and which still need to be attempted. Well at least until the core code eats them and resets to blank, which has happened to me more than once. But even if you do everything correctly in Standard, as said you can fail the objective for just arriving a minute late which is ridiculous, if you have made the station stop. Career will still show as a pass. And if the points in Career are an irritation, you can of course just turn them off...

 

In real life if you do not keep the time/speedlimit then you will be late and then you will be put on the side and let other train pass you and on singletrack it is even worse.
Each time you will be put on the side you will be more and more late.
A 30 min late at the start can be more than 3 hours late arrival at the end station.
In real life you are not alone.
There are trains driving faster than you and trains which is driving slower than you.
And if you do not keep the timetable then instand you will be put on the side and the other thing is track maintenance.
On the timetable there are planned stops when it is track maintenance and if you gonna let a faster train pass you but if you're late then the timetable is not correct anymore!
Then they stops you often if you're not on time.

 

It's been a week since I reported the problem to Just Trains. So far, they haven't replied.

Is this the correct support email for Just Trains? j3tsupport@justtrains.net

 

If you purchased the loco from Steam then yes

But I think you should contact STEAM as it is their listing error.
Just Trains did not advertised the scenarios as being Career and I doubt they would change them as they have not done anything wrong.

 

Just to add to Peter's point...

From Just Trains - China Railways HXD1 Locomotive - Heavy Haul Freight Pack

"Included are Standard scenarios that cover the Southwest China High-Speed Rail Network and LongHai Railway: LingBao to Mianchi routes.

With eight Standard scenarios, Quick Drive compatibility, ......"

and to quote my earlier post...

 

Thanks for the heads up! Appreciate it.

 

I know it's possible to change a carrier scenario to standard scenario, but is the reverse possible Standard>>>Carrier?
Richard.

 

It's not possible. I have cloned the standard scenarios to change them into career scenarios. Immediately after placing down a 'career scenario tablet' The editor reloads deleting all consists on the track within the route.

You can optionally create your own career scenarios, it's something I have been trying to learn but can't find a tutorial on how to create a career scenario! There are standard, quick drive, free roam scenario creation tutorials but none for career, that I can find?

 

So much hassle.. the scenario itself plays out exactly the same, all that changes is the scoring thing....

You can convert a Standard to a Career scenario by manually editing the ScenarioProperties.xml. You must change eStandardScenarioClass to eCareerScenarioClass and replace the <d:nil/> tag with scoring data from another scenario and adjust it if you want.

Then delete SDBCache.bin.

Be aware it will not give you those XP points if that's what you're after. This only works for official scenarios.

 

Because when you do that you're creating a new scenario

 

I'm not overall concerned! I'm happy with what I've paid for, I assumed it had career scenarios as stated by the original poster.
As someone else had mentioned, Steam should correct the misleading information

 

I already know that

 

So why are you doing it?

 

I wasn't sure if it was possible or not to convert a standard scenario to a career scenario.

 

Yeah, but by putting in a new scenario marker you aren't doing that task. You convert scenarios by editing the ScenarioProperties.xml file with RW Tools or a .xml editor.

 

I didn't know that until Spikee1975 had mentioned it

 

Good morning lads

Just Trains, has contacted me and informed that the Chinese Railways HDX1 locomotive DLC was intentionally released without any 'Career' scenarios. They have also contacted Dovetail Games to fix up the accidental mistake on the Steam store page 'in due time'.

 

To be clear, does that mean that career scenarios were cut from the Steam release?

 

No...it means the included scenarios were never of the Career type, the *error* being how the contents of the pack were described on Steam, as posted by Peter 9 days ago.