Class 323 Sander

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  1. Indege

    Indege Well-Known Member

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    Are sanders in general functional in TSW? The 323 has serious wheelsip in rain and snow and I press the sander and nothing happens.
     
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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I guess the sand is not sandy enough then.
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Sanders are indeed functional. If the train you are driving is wheelslipping so badly that even sand can't help, you should reduce power.

    It is good practice to not rely on sanding, but to be more gentle with the train in conditions of low adhesion. You do not want to end up in a situation where you have emptied the sand hoppers, so there is none left for you (or the drivers who will drive the train after you) if it is needed for an emergency stop.

    In TSW, however, sand is infinite.

    Also, if you need to manually apply sand, press the button for at least 10 seconds to allow the sand to take effect. Do not repress the button until at least 10 seconds have passed from when you last pressed the button.
     
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  4. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Its not new, same for me I Feel like the 323 is somehow unfinished
     
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    LeadCatcher Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick question, are you apply sand while the wheels are slipping? Once traction is lost, doubtful if applying sand would do much. Reduce power till you regain traction, then apply the sand and slowly increase power.
     
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  6. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    a few seconds before it actually
     
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    Indege Well-Known Member

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    Yeah when it starts slipping, i didnt know I had to press and hold the sand button. My train flew through northfield earlier because it slipped and the brakes stopped working
     
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    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Which is why I always think: Should I have really bought Birmingham cross city? But at the same time, Its got some potential so i thought lets give it a go, after all. since its not local to i could try a variety of uk routes, But i am really trying to Get the most out of bcc, But i feel like the 323 lets it down, if even suggested a 730 Aventra to come as a loco DLC to reenergize bcc like The 700 reenergized sehs
     
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  9. Indege

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    The 730 doesnt run on the BCC? The 730s arent in service but when they are they will be running alongside and eventually replacing the 350s. Also the brakes not working whilst slipping is something that can happen on glossop too its the same train. And BCC is amazing theres so much to do with such little route
     
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    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Fam, the 730 are announced to run to bcc soon, and its not the 350's they're replacing, its the 323's but It's Only god that knows what will happen to those 350's
     
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    LNWR are replacing their 350/2 with 730s.
     
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    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    oh YES YES YES Its true Because the /1 will replace the 323's and the/2 will replace the 350/2 on the wcml
    I just remembered...
     
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    IRL when driving when you experiance wheel sleep you take 0 power and apply sand then gradually apply power again. You cant just go from 0 to full power and then apply the sand as that defeats the purpose. There is nothing wrong with the BCC 323 if you are not doing it correctly you will continue to get wheel slide.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You know, saying this:
    Then replying and making out you were mistaken:
    Comes very close to trolling and trying to boost your post count.
     
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    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Im not trying to troll, genuienly remembered Please just dont say that
     
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    How big are these hoppers in general? For how long could I continuously sand before running out?

    We can't sand here in the "tunnelbana", sadly.
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good question! I did a bit of research, and the only thing I could find was that the Taurus train has about 4 hoppers each with 100Kg sand. As for how long, I have no idea. I would assume it changes for each locomotive.

    I also forgot to mention that sand can damage the wheels and rails, which is another reason to only use it as a last resort.
     

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