Hello, Today I'm suggesting a route filled with various services and patterns which is Manchester Piccadilly to Birmingham New Street. Stations: Manchester Piccadilly Levenshulme Heaton Chapel Stockport Cheadle Hulme Bramhall Poynton Adlington (Cheshire) Prestbury Macclesfield Congleton Kidsgrove Longport Stoke on Trent Wedgwood Barlaston Stone Stafford Penkridge Wolverhampton Coseley Tipton Dudley Port Sandwell and Dudley Smethwick Galton Bridge Smethwick Rolle Street Birmingham New Street Locos: Class 221 (XC) Class 150/1 (NT) Layers: Class 390 - inter city Class 350 - commuter out of Birmingham Class 323 - commuters out of Manchester Services: 2tph Cross Country Manchester to Birmingham 2tpd Avanti 390 Manchester to Birmingham 1tph Avanti 390 Birmingham to Stafford 2tph Class 150 Manchester towards Buxton 1tph Class 323 Manchester to Stoke 3tph Class 350 Birmingham to Wolverhampton Summary This route is full of variety of passenger services and has 28 stations. It takes about 1 hour 30 from end to end on a Cross Country service. With regards to route hopping you can connect to BCC and Glossop Line. Please let me know your thoughts and wether this seems like a justifiable way of getting the class 221 into the game.
I believe whilst this is a great route suggestion there is existing problems between DTG and Cross Country meaning licensing isn't happening and so forth isn't gonna happen. Maybe in the BR era though...
That is not good news!. Does the same apply from Milton Keynes to Birmingham New Street? I really hope that is not the case as the WCML will grind to a halt. It makes you wonder what the issues are between DTG and Cross Country. DTG do a great job creating these routes, so what's the problem. The train companies have done all right out of me since I got TSW4, I am always looking for a reason for a trip on the railway now.
The licence problems tend to be with companies not wanting people to use the game to damage their brand I think like making trains deliberately late or bad driving etc. but I think those people are a minor part of the player base in the grand scheme of things.
they probably wont give the license and even if they did they wouldnt do a route that long, nice idea though I would of loved Birmingham New street to Peterborough with the class 170.
Birmingham - Manchester should only be some 110km, which is only a smidge more than Frankfurt Fulda was most recently. I think it's certainly a doable route, assuming the TOCs get on board.
Birmingham New St to Manchester Piccadilly is 70 miles 113km. The shorter connection is Milton Keynes to Birmingham New St which is 57 miles 91km. Just Trains are close to releasing WCML over Shap, it is coming in at 90 miles 144 km. So it can be done Whenever I have suggest continuing WCML North I get comments it will break systems. I have never suggested that it should be completed as one DLC, but as a collection DLC's produced over time building to a complete line. Then, in game you can move route to route by Hopping, or Free Roam to complete a Euston to Manchester Piccadilly run.
Would be a nice route, only way around licensing would be to base in BR Classic days, when the NW/SW-SE services were loco hauled and you would have found Class 304’s on the Birmingham to Wolverhampton/Stafford and Crewe to Manchester stoppers.
Why would there be a licensing issue when Avanti West Coast is in game already running in Euston to Milton Keynes. They offer a service to Manchester Piccadilly from Euston?
If the focus is Birmingham to Manchester then Cross Country would be the primary operator. Besides, far more fun ragging an AC electric loco, AM4 or even a Duff across there than a Vomiter.
Hopefully they all will. Then perhaps our sim will be looked upon favorably for all routes across the UK. In the mean time create the route as unbranded.
