Db Br 187

The BR 187 received a big improvement patch such as the sounds and AFB and so on. Has anyone noticed any changement and if so how does it sounds ? Can anyone make a video if possible please ? I’m on PS5 and we can’t get the 187 for now

 

here is the new sound :
This is not my video.

 

Thanks for the link. The sound is atrocious it’s like the locomotive is asking to end his life it doesn’t sounds like the 187 at all

 

Almost a year waiting for that horror? Skyhook must be joking!

 

Skyhook is terrible

 

This makes me kind of sad...this locomotive needs some love guys!

 

glad i never bought the 187, this is awfull

 

+1

 

But its been with DTG for a couple of months testing, so this shouldnt be a shock to you!!

 

Well… the test team exists without really existing that’s why a lot of broken DLCs has been released

 

Aren't those the sounds of the last mile TRAXX3? That's funny. Hopefully the sound and improvement mods still work.

If it has LZB and the mods still work I might still buy it though, to use it on KWG

 

Is it just me but have they kept the original sound file and then placed the new one on top in error when the original one should have been removed?

 

So this is an error? Seems like something that even five seconds of testing should have caught, no?

 

Oh god... I just hope it's fixed before it comes to PS5 (But it probbaly won't be for another year...)

 

Before next week ? Nah you’re too optimistic

 

You'd hope it was just a case that the wrong sound file had been included in the update or its corrupted when being uploaded. In which case it could be a quick fix of simply uploading the correct version

 

I’m not gonna lie I lost some hope on some cases especially with Skyhook. I really hope the sound is corrupted or badly mixed but how on earth someone at DTG gave the green light and haven’t said no it doesn’t comply with our standards

 

That’s the sounds we need DTG

 

It’s quite funny, I was just watching the “ramagani” stream (which is advertised by DTG and he is a TSW3 ambassador), he was testing the 187 on HHL and he had to quit the game after about one or two minutes, as the sound was so bad that he could not stand the it, as it made his head ache (his words) He is actually a real train driver… This says something about the quality of this add on

 

Youd hope the error happened after testing and its simply a case the wrong file was published, lets give DTG a break, they have released a magnitude if DLC/Updates all at the same time, its quite realistic to think a simple mistake has happened. Its just unfortunate its happened to the 187.

Of course if it isnt a simple mixup then questions are once again raised on how this went through DTG testing.

 

Is there a "crying in pain while facepalming"-smiley anywhere? It would fit so nice I guess. *sigh*

 

Lights are still wrong.

 

TS has the headlight right
It need look like this

 

Exactly.

 

This all goes back to the point that people are not testing the right things.
Does it make a sound? Yes.
Is it the right sound? Not applicable.

The fact that it is so obvious and jarring just emphasises the point.

 

Different people. I'm not saying that DTG's testing system isn't dysfunctional - it is - but what you have described is a correct description of QA. The asking of "Is it the right sound" is the province of beta testers.

 

Yep, a typical test would be stuff like lever functionality, « does lever X work as expected » etc., not subjective questions like « does this sound like a BR187 to you »?

 

But isn’t this a simulation game? Isn’t the correct sound part of the whole experience? So the way I see it QA and Beta testing are mandatory. And that is something DTG fails at consistently. And before anyone says anything: yes Skyhook made this but DTG made it possible. They could have said no to Skyhook. But they didn’t.

 

There just is no Q&A for audio. TSW is plagued with audio issues as long as I'm playing it. I always have the feeling everyone making this game are listening to a streaming service during testing. I hadn't expect the sound to be this bad as I didn't hear any problems with the original sounds but this is just ridiculous. Why is there no Q&A for audio? It's as important as a good-looking train.

 

As long as it works, it's good. Look at all the times there were audio related issues on other locomotives and stuff that were released.

 

And that is the problem with TSW because it's really not good when the audio is broken. If the audio is broken that means it doesn't work.

 

Well, this is the first time I’ve uninstalled a dlc because of the sound. Tried it for a while, but I simply can’t stand that sound. It’s awful

 

Any news about 187 sounds?

 

It was on the mini roadmap as a medium term item - no immediate fix/still under investigation.

 

Thanks for the info see if the sounds were sorted on the 187 it would be a great freight train for loads of german routes i drove a full route in it and i finished it but i knew the sounds are pg way say it mucked up

 

Skyhook is a joke DTG.
They need to banned as third party developer

 

No they don’t

 

Either way Skyhook, does not deliver. Their BR 187 content is almost a year old on consoles. The problems concerning graphics, gameplay, sound and achievements/trophies still exist. Now, I don’t work in the commercial sector, but even where I work if you do not deliver, or underdeliver, it’s exit for you. So yeah. Exit Skyhook and compensate your customers. Although. Never mind that last comment. We’d probably wait for an eternity to get that done.

 

It is playable on PC in its current state but perhaps it is wiser to wait for the new sounds to try to enjoy. BR o7

 

Seriously they dont, HSC is a fantastic route.

If you dont like their products then dont buy them. Who do you think you are thinking you can decide what other players can and cant buy?

 

& Cane Creek is nice too

The main problem is tech aspect of trains made by Skyhook.

 

It's DTG that handles the releases so it's DTG who is to blame. Sure Skyhook messed up the sounds but it's DTG that released it. The problem with the sound is so obvious that it should have been picked up immediately. Clearly the sound was muted whilst testing this build.

 

As far as I am concerned the only outstanding issue with the 187 is the sounds. Achievements work fine on steam (unlike most of the others) as its one of the few Ive got 100% on.

 

I’d like to 100% it too. But on console it’s not possible. And it’s been like that for over a year now. If I knew in advance I wouldn’t have bought that turd of a DLC. It’s double sad because I like the BR187.

 

So because on console have messed up the achievements and trophies it's a bad DLC and SHG fault?

 

Good question and yes exactly! You do realise it’s taken them nearly 12 months to get it fixed right? Let that sink in. Almost a full year. That’s unacceptable no matter how you look at it. And then we also need to talk about lights, sounds and other bugs which are all mentioned in this thread and in the “broken achievements/trophies thread”. Which also haven’t been fixed yet. Did I mention this has taken them almost a year to get fixed without result!? This is extra sad because I like the TSW games and I like the BR187. I was looking forward to it when they announced it. But I can’t ever under these circumstances recommend this DLC or any other made by Skyhook because of this. And to think we all paid for this DLC. You don’t accept a faulty car, a faulty phone or faulty pants. Why would you accept a faulty DLC?

 

Any updates?

 

No updates since the last update. It's Christmas break right now so they won't be in the office. No communication other than they are aware of it and working with dtg regarding audio but don't expect anything to happen soon. We know how long they take if it ever happens

 

What do you mean?
It's already on PS5...