Some developer responses to this are found from this post onwards: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/1-800-rate-my-218.82443/#post-855444
Modern Brake valves like in the traxx or vectron does not allow to go over 5bar with the Füllstoss. For angleichen there is a seperate button. With the older brakevalves like the one in the 155, 110, 218, you can make a füllstoss or even overcharge the brakes until you need to vent all brakechambers manually . Thats up to the driver not go over 5.5 bar. Well i guess in tsw its seperated in the code.
After doing a few runs with the 218 I'm pretty satisfied with its handling and sounds. It seems "alive" and not just a movable 3D object. Performance seems accurate for this type of locomotive. Modeling seems pretty good too ! Good job. My only gripes are that I can't change the battery on/off keybind, the game menu doesn't seem to accept any change. And the inacurrate brake gauges from the driver's POV are still bothering me, precision devices should be precise. I recommend this DLC.
The battery on the 218 seems to be able to be turned on/off with the Z key, there doesn't seem to be a physical switch though
On those older locos the battery is always connected. The main battery switch is besides the battery itself (mostly on the exterior). It gets switched off only when there is something broken or the battery is dead. The 218 has no further battery switch anywhere. The 110s and such have a secondary switch in the cab or sometimes in the engine room. That switch only activates the main cab systems. Screens like the EBuLa or radio are connected directly to the battery and will not go off with the battery switch. There is much more complexity to it of course. The 218 in TSW has no working battery switch for that reason. It would not make any sense unless we would make the battery compartment accessible on the outside.
Yeah I understand, but it is studied by the cab designers to be precise from the driver seat and not when crouching 1 meter to the left ... TSW is a computer simulation, as such you can't dynamically move your head nor do some adjustments to the driving position as you would do in real life. As many things as possible have to be correct from the seating position. Even many free models from OpenBVE get gauges right. Just look at gauges on this trailer (I really recommend this excellent channel), everytime the gauges should display 5 bars they actually display 5 bars on every type of rolling stock : If no one is bothered by not having the correct values displayed from the main driving POV, okay ! No problem ! It is not the first time, it won't be the last ! But then no one should ever complain about any other inaccuracies or issues.
Is there anything we should be doing if the gearbox oil temperature is reaching the red mark? I've noticed this is happening quite a lot under normal driving.
I love the BR 218, it´s fun to drive but there seems to be an issue with Creators Club liverys. If you drive with a livery in snow or rain there are weird shapes on the loco.
We already fixed that and will be good with the upcoming update. There was a wrong snow/rain mask applied to the livery editor material what causes that visual chaos. It only affects winter and rain weather settings.
In terms of physics i like the suspension. Definetly noticing the difference to a loco without. Maybe a tick too bouncy at lower speeds, but overall i hope suspension will be a feature on all coming locos for tsw.
Yes. I think the feeling will depend on how the track is laid in TSW (perfectly flat or not). On another note, I did try the 218 on the Maintalbahn, it is quite enjoyable to drive and the start-and-stop schedule is fun to drive. It is easier to be on time with the 218 than with the stock BR 642.
I have been seeing those really nice cabview videos for a long time. They are great! And in this case is not the classic "cabview", with a camera on the front window. This one shows all the locomotive panel, and signal, plus the operation of the train. Great!
I really hope, that a coupler will be added in the future to also connect multiple unit trains like the ICE for some great scenarios
Yes, plus they are very instructive with the subtitles enabled as they describe both the driving and the history of the route
I forgot which route it was, probably Rhein Ruhr Osten that has a bit of uphill gradient and then back down, and there is a point where the elevation changes rapidly, it bounced in a funny way
I think I remember the older TSW routes have more abrupt gradient changes, that bounce must have been great haha !
Just bought Rhein-Ruhr Osten two days ago from Instant Gaming. I don't think any other route has such abrupt gradient changes as RRO, you don't even need suspension to experience that.
Well in my case.., I usually download the YT videos on a memory stick first, and watch them comfortably on my bedroom later.. So no chance to see the subtitles. Anyway I do not mind about it. With the video sounds, and how the engineer drives the train is OK for me.
When I spawn the 463 diesel cab, the loco is wrongly set to ZWS. But even changing this setting on the 218 does not work. I am not able to drive from the cab. It works all perfectly on HBK, where the switch is set from the start to KWS. None of the control lights from the loco come on, indicating there is a connection problem bewteen can and loco. I have tried switching the ZWS / KWS switch while sitting down in the chair in the 218, with / without activating the Richtungsschalter, doing all this coupled uncoupled (with the already spawned completed consist). Am I overseeing something obvious? I have also noticed that the cab2 of the 218 is at the very back of the train, facing aft. On the HBK services this is the other way round. Could it have something to do with this? This is also a problem in MOD timetables, like the 2007 NID timetable. I dont seem to be able to connect cab to loco...
When you span in FreeRoam or the timetable services have not entered the correct spawn configuration setting, you need to manually set the switch. There is nothing more to do than setting it to KWS when a 463.0 cab car is present. You probably forgot to set the KWS switch in the cab car to On. It's on the desk, to right besides the wheel. This should be the first step to do after sitting in the drivers seat. If that switch is not set, no KWS command is send to the loco and nothing will happen.
Indeed... that did the trick! Keep forgetting about this switch in the cab car. If I am not mistaken the elec table does not have such a switch. Why does the diesel version need it in the first place?! Also, thanks for confirming that on the loco it is actually enough to just turn the switch, no Richtungsschalter or sitting down required. I am never so sure, as I seem to have made the experience with other locos (BR111?) that is does require you to activate the cab first before setting this switch. Not sure, though...
Don't know. No, the MU switch on the 111 can also being set without any cab activated. It's even necessary to do that before activating the cab or the messages will not get sent properly.
Mit dem KWS Schalter wird der Steuerstromkreis geschlossen. Means you can only add power when: - kws control current cirquit is closed - the main control lever is into forward - the swith "leistung" aufgeschaltet ist. The "non functional" 3 stage selector is for the type of diesel loco and control / heating type. Who knows why its solved as separate switch .
Yeah, I thought it would simply close the loop, however, the real question is why would it not just be hot wired, like it is in the elec table. Who knows... maybe no one any more
I like it too, but is it just me or a known bug, that the train (loco and "Karlsruher Kopf") cannnot apply any power when resuming from Savegame? (PS5)
When finishing the freight scenario (where it is heavy raining) the last textbox ("Vielen Dank, lassen wir uns ansehen, wie sie abgeschnitten haben?" ;-) ) is empty. I did a screenshot and can provide it later if wanted
Sadly the last but one journey service 89804 Lübeck Hbf to Rothenburgsort ended at km 57.4 with a permanent red for me :-( Fdl says I should wait for signal change, track occupied. I checked the map westbound and found a train at a green signal not moving. Edit: Tried again today, the signal in the screenshot was Vr2 this time! I entered into Rothenburgsort with Hp1
Today I used BR 218 on the route Rosenheim - Salzburg. The loco "springs" on the switches, but it is perhaps too strong an effect for my taste ...... on the line Hamburg - Lübeck this effect is probably not available at all, because I did not notice anything there.
The last journey service 89111 spawns me each time in a loco other than the 218, restarted 4 times. First instruction is to couple, so it doesn't fit the service descriprion (move single loco), too.
Yep, that journey from the last BR 218 chapter spawns me in a Raillion BR185.2. To drive the light loco from Hamburg-Rothenburgsort to Lübeck and then couple to 9 vehicles? Bit weird.
For 218 with Dosto Cabcar ZWS i tried a few Services in Freeroam, also nice to see the Salzburg Rosenheim Cab Car shows the Gear Position 1-15 in the screen. This works with all Cab car formations with the new advanced brake system. (Wish the newest dostos were used on Maintalbahn.., but anyway) 1) Couple the 218 with the Dosto Formation with shut down engine 2) Start Engine on the 218 and turn the selector to KWS and back to ZWS 3) Start Train heating with selector for loco 1+2, shut it down after 3s 4) Turn Train heating to loco 1 and start it (with Reverser forward) 5) Remove Reverser if 1000V is reached, not earlier 6) Go into the cabcar and put Reverser into forward 7) Shut off the main battery of the cab car, and turn it on again 8) You can see now the Hydraulic Position is on the loco via screen below the KN Here i simulated a broken 111 in salzburg, Decided to couple the 218 on the back as soon the service has started. (the 111 needs to be shut down entirely for ZWS operation). So the player can do the entire service with the 218 pushing.This is a timetable service, so since the player controls the 111 service, just start the 218 manually without sitting in the driver seat, same procedure for the heating. Also its recommend on the 111, to turn the MU selector to 0 (not ZWS!)
Couldn't resist when TSG came around with that mashine tbh. Its awesome! I cant really tell about sound etc but in general it feels like a really authentic experience. I came up with two questions regarding this loco, as theres a lot of experience in this thread i hope ill maybe find answers here. Firstly: is the train heating really only the train heating or is it more like the genere energy supply for the train ? Second question: regarding the transmission, when driving heavier trains or trains on steep gradients, the transmission light occasionally turns on while driving at higher speed and at higher throttle positions. Im surely doing something wrong here despite trying to drive it like recommended here in the thread. Or i might missing something, what does it tell me in this case ?
Thats a term for the Zugsammelschiene, which is the 1000v supply. It supplies all common equipment in the coaches. Heating, air conditioning etc. For connecting you need to shut down the engine or lower the panto
The "train heating" is a bit tricky, since one 218 has trouble to supply a long ic train with all the modern standard equipment. So if you drive double headed, the lower cable connected on the 218 are needed to "synchronize" the 1000v power system when both locos are producing power. Not 100% sure here, but technically its necessary to split the power connection in a sandwich formation, since its not possible to supply ZS 1000v from both ends. But this you cant do in TSW. The transmission is a big chunck to fully understand, there are also differences to Mtu and voith. Important: - using reverser only when the transmission is empty of oil (wheel pos 0), but you can use with engine on / off. - same for low and fast gear, middle position is for hauling / schleppfahrt - posotion 1 is partial filling, pos 2 filling the torque converter. 3-15 to select the engine rounds, here the what hsppens in the converter is depending on the engine speed and driving speed. There are slightly differences in changing positions between torque converter 1 to 2 from voith ang mtu. At position 15, the switch to converter 2 is at 65/70 kmh in slow gear Same at 100/110kmh for fast gear.
XBX. Advice said to press <right stick> AND D pad right. Not quite correct!! !You must trigger the D pad 3X (whilst holding down R stick) before you get the 'floating' view. Also stuck after coupling to rescue.. Will retry with faster rescue.
do you mean like there is fast gear position, slow gear position, and a third one in between (in/game labelled as "off") for shunting or sth? or have I read it wrong ?
Yes the real MTU and Voith "Stufenschalter" are varying from each other, also how they are operated and mechanicly locked. In TSW the middle position is for Hauling. (Schleppfahrt). Schade, the Hamburg Lübeck timetable is now very rich and good with the a.i. + the 218 services. Still, they could have populated the Depot a bit more. (At least with static 218s, n Wagen and BR628s).
so in-game in English it is just labelled "off"? ... and "hauling" means "shunting"? or what is it exactly... cos tried it in Training center and it let me drive almost as if in fast gear, so not sure about speeds allowed in this mode... or it just isnt simulated properly?
Hauling and shunting is not the same. The middle position is used if you move the 218 with another loco. For normal move by its own power you have to be in Fast / slow gear. I think for TSW standards, this loco is very well simulated.
Off in this case means neutral gear like in a car. You can then haul her like a wagon. She would not move with its own power when set to Off. To have an effect with that switch the reverser needs to be set to Off too, otherwise the the switch does nothing. The HUD shows the actual gear with a red 1 (slow) or 2 (fast) and a grey number when transitioning.
I guess I am starting to understand, but... when I tried stuff in Training center, I put it to Off... and... it just behaved as if it was on fast gear, aka on 2 it flashes the gear indicator, and at 100 kph it did that again, just like in Fast gear as for Maik's reply, when is this thing used, exactly? when it is like a dead weight pretty much, or does it provide power...
Then you used the switch with an active cab aka. reverser was not in Off position. The 2 in the HUD says that too. exactly that, when it gets hauled by something else .. does not provide any power
oh ok, I just tested stuff in TC... and you were absolutely right... I probably forgot to put the reverser to OFF first, so even if the switch wasnt on Fast, it probably still was in Fast gear... cos when I put reverser to off first, then gear to OFF, and then reverser back to Forward, traction lock was on on my HUD it doesnt indicate if it is in Fast or Slow Gear... I use the new miniHUD which doesnt show this... maybe the classic TSW 2 / 3 shows this, dunno thanks both of you guys for patience ... my mind is, eh, cannot find a nice word ... sometimes my head is as if it was searching for stuff to get anxious about, even the smallest BS that I will probably never or rarely use since I am a mostly passenger guy, I will drive most of the time in Fast anyway... but I HAD to know
Just a note, I'm not sure if this is relevant in TSW but in reality pulling an n-Wagen consist with a cab car, if driven from the 218 you must make sure the direct (loco) brake is set to "released" in the cab car. (It's on Hold by default, which might trap some air in the brake cylinders.)
This caused some nasty faults in reality, damaged wheels and "drivers" who just applied more power from the cab car while the direct brake back in the loco was still on . The golden rule especially for push / pull is to release the direct brake on the other end. If the loco is on the back end, its enough to leave one valve into open. For the cab car it definetly has to be in the open position. I dont mind the "wrong" set up, since i check every train before using it. The 2mins and Passenger board task is enought time to check everyting. The dangerous part here is if you manage to drive with slight applied direct brakes the wheel bandage is heating up and is turning over at some point. For this you have the yellow markings on those wheels.
Here a few examples: The yellow must needed for non monoblock wheels with a bandage, in case of a turn movement and missalignment the wheel will become red markings. After that the wheelset has to be changed. With the disc brakes there is less trouble of thermic size increase.
