Out Now Db Br 218 Diesel Loco - Out Now!

Technically, it won’t land on Steam until 1800 (BST)/1700 (UTC) this evening.

I am a pedantic nuisance!

 

Playstore Europe has it available already.

 

The Bridge is still too low. Dostos are still clipping with the Roof into the Bridge before Miltenberg.



And can someone please help me and tell me where the switches for Sifa and PZB are located for the BR218.

 

Cab 2 cupboard on the back wall.

 

DTG Lukas would Look into it

 

the bridge has already been raised, noticed this yesterday after the update:

 

Strange, because my Picture is from Today on a Service with the BR218

 

Make sure your game has received yesterday's update.

 

According to my Xbox everything is up to date. I don't see any updates

 

Still no mention of the "6 other routes" it would layer on per the developer.
Just the one Maintalbahn layer.
Hmmmm.

 

Subs, not layers

 

Still not mentioned in the release, so people don't know looking at the release.
What subs? What routes? People have been talking repeatedly about using it on other routes, but the release just lists two routes and then launches into "use Free Roam!"
No mention of anything else.
Why wouldn't you advertise every positive part of a product in an effort to sell it?
That's the purpose of a press release....

 

Simply because in the actual state of it it's not positive at all and not even intended to be there. I just can't prevent that substitution. With the few freight trains it might be fun, but with all the passenger trains not because of the door side problem. Already seen some lets plays where players got confused by the doors not working properly and its always the DLCs fault and not the other content. So why should it be advertised when its not even a good thing.

 

is this the part where the door switches are "backwards?" I get that it's not ideal, but that's not "game breaking" if it's explained to people. Since I'd like to see it used on freight routes, then that's a positive thing not a negative. Being 95% correct is positive in my view.
Not sure by what you mean "I can't prevent the substitution?"
Doesn't that have to be programmed in?
Unless we are talking about "Free Roam" I guess, which is different. For that it's on the player if they play "outside the rules."

 

The way substitution works makes it impossible for Maik to prevent unwanted substitution. It's a design issue in TSW.

 

Just to be clear, planned or unplanned?
Free Roam? Or in the Editor?
Because you can't just substitute any loco on any route as a vanilla player. You can only drive what you're allowed to in the timetables.
Sorry if I sound thick, but it's just not clear to me as a new player what the issue is. (I get the door thing, but I mean "unwanted substitutions") since in my mind, when you create a new loco, you have to program where it belongs.
This is why I'm trying to get clarification.
Is it that it was programmed in and THEN a problem with the doors was found, but it was too late to stop it so it is "published" without mentioning the "broken" feature?
Help me understand please.

 

It means it just happened without the developers wanting it to. It happened to several pieces of rolling stock in the past. Sometimes it just doesn't let the developers pick and choose where the loco ends up; it just happens randomly that they can't prevent from happening.

 

The way substitution works is that for any given formation (e.g. a locomotive) used on a route, the probability for it to be substituted by another locomotive is defined (e.g. 50% chance) and a set of tags defines what kind of locomotives can substitute it (e.g. Deutschland). This is all done on a timetable/route level, which is beneficial: the timetable or route doesn't have to be updated when a new locomotive is released to the game and it will appear on the existing services when a player purchases it without the need of an update. The downside is that, if the set of tags is not defined correctly, an unwanted locomotive can substitute. I guess (!), based on Maik's posts, that in this case there is no tag for the type of door controls that is needed for this locomotive, so it spawns on trains that have an old (incorrect) door control system. This cannot be prevented without defining that tag on all the formations on all the unwanted routes. It seems this was too much of an effort (from my experience as a volunteer developing one single timetable I can understand that) and it was decided not to update all the other routes.

This is a guess, based on what Mike posted here. I hope it brings some clarity.

 

When will it be available on Steam?

 

in less than 1 hour

 

thank you so much Maik Goltz for 218 dlc I love old german locos (especially diesel ones)

Even though it hasn't been available on Steam yet, based on the videos I saw of it, I really liked it.

 

They are behind a door at the back of the drivers compartment 2

 

Sort of.... but I still don't understand what the "probability" is for. For AI trains? Because if I substitute a train, it's a definite thing. If I want to spawn the BNSF SD-40 on Sand Patch for example as a substitute, then it spawns. There is no probability. I just select the loco, the route, and the timetable run.
I guess that's what I really am talking about.
I get that the AI trains also substitute, but what confuses me is that unless you are choosing one out of the timetable mode by chance (showing up at a certain station at a certain time to drive it), then it's not really an issue, since the door operation doesn't really matter to me if I just see an AI train driving by.
My understanding (could be wrong) from what you said is that there is a chance of the 218 spawning on say Niddertalbahn as an AI train, and there is the option that IF it did spawn there, you could get into it from the platform and THEN the doors wouldn't work correctly?

That to me seems a sort of "indirect substitution" to the player because you are taking an extra step to take control of an AI train, whereas I would see substituting "directly" as being something like choosing the 193 Vectron, going into Voralberg and "subbing" it right into a 185 timetable run.

Do you see the source of the confusion?

 

Live on Steam... Installing now.

 

Awesome work Maik, loving the loco already.

By the way, does it use the new suspension system?

 

I reinstalled Maintalbahn just to be on the safe side, but the Bridge is still too small for Dostos. It seems the update didn't arrive properly on Xbox Series S.

 

Yes

 

cant open doors for passengers with DB BR 218 with 2 776.2 DBPBZFA'S on Main Spessart bahn had to go up to the doors and open them with the camera clear bug needs fix asap on PC Steam new loco same old dovetail or this case TSG they all the same clear bots working for them

 

Not quoting your entire post, but the probability indeed means the chance that another locomotive will substitute this locomotive as an AI train (that a player can take over when spawning on foot or abandoning another service). E.g. a formation with a 50% chance of substitution will in about 50% of the services be replaced by another locomotive when running as AI. A player will always be able to select another locomotive for any service this formation is used in and run it with that other locomotive, as long as the locomotive matches the required substitution tags. For the DB BR 218, this means that the player will have issues with controlling the doors when running an unsuitable service with it. I'm not sure if this issue is also present for the AI, potentially causing stuck AI services. I'd have to check.

 

I cannot get the train to move from the n-Wagen cab car. I am able to control the motor but it just won't move. Does somebody know the issue?

 

Thank you that explains it much better.

 

Can't you use punctuation? Also calling the developers bots isn't constructive at all

 

Great loco but i would love to see an option to start services with the loco completely shut down as that's the best part starting up the loco.

 

Also it's a bit strange when you get put into a train with running engine and the "Richtungswender" isn't even put in but the engine running. But it's one of the best or the best loco DLC at the moment. Thanks

 

No need to be aggressive. This is one of the best DLC ever and I enjoy it very much. The door problem has already been reported. The doors are inverted, you just need to select the other side. It is annoying, but not more than a minor issue. And not linked to this DLC, so no need to attack TSG.

 

The " Power " " Leistung " switch must be set to on.

 

Just like the 612 and 628 (also diesel-hydraulics)- you need go-goo in the slushbox before it will move.

 

So the thing I immediately love, even before starting the game, is the fact that in the Journey all the training scenarios are grouped into one chapter. Before I had to first do intro across multiple chapters, now all the training can be done in one chapter, with then operating everything and learning in-depth. More of that please.

 

Does anyone know how i can make the fan in the second loco also spin if i drive with two?

 

Bought it!

 

A dream in oriental red Love this loco!

 

Wow your exchange rate is way off $17.99USD is equal to just under $25.00CAD.

Not $30.99CAD. And considering a route is only $36.99CAD. I will wait for a sale.

 

Downloaded the whole fleet of vintage liveries before calling it quits tonight. Put one on the RSB Mainz - Saarbrücken on LFR for a last, quick stint - lovely stuff!

 

It's possible that DTG has nothing to do with it, looks more like Xbox Canada shenanigans, with regional prices and taxes.

 

It's possible but strange that the Acela which is also 17.99USD is only 21.99CAD.

And that the London Commuter route is even lower at 27.99CAD as well. So the 218 is even more expensive than a route.

I would expect that maybe for the study level 101. But the 218?

 

Yes, I hope there will be a Heritage Livery Collection Add-On for the locomotive which also includes the paintwork. As good as the paintwork is, the originals from the developer are simply cleaner and sharper. I would have no problem paying an extra 12-13 euros for that.

 

including the cab n-wagen. And layers for Niedertalbahn and LRS.

 

If you learn how much work goes into creating a loco like this in Unreal Engine for a game not made by you, you would honor that you can even by the addon that cheap and judge the price of this addon based on prices DTG is selling their stuff for. They focus more on quantity over quality compared to third party devs.

 

It isn't priced high at 17.99 USD that is very fare and like I said before I expeted it to be about 25.00CAD. Which is the proper exchange rate. Not 31.99 CAD.

Look it up.

It probably has nothing to do DTG as stated in anothers post but MS wonky exchange rate. So nowhere am I saying that it is there fault but I'm not paying 22.99 USD for a product that is 17.99 USD.

I will wait for a sale when it matches the equivilent of 17.99USD.

The same issue happened when Maintalbahn came out and DTG JD looked into it and low and behold the price dropped to the proper exchange rate 5 days later on Xbox

So hoping that it may be the same issue.