Xbox Db Br 365?

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  1. SHINO BAZ

    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    After looking up this diesel locomotive it is classified as a 365(Heavy) because it fully remote controlled instead of having a driver because it's cheaper to train someone to remote control this locomotive then to sit in the cab and drive it.So if your a local model railway enthusiast it's a dream job.You play with model trains at home and work with a full size train at work,it's just your controller slightly different.I know remote locomotives are common now adays but how will a loco like this be represented in game when you can basically do this with almost any in game locomotive?
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    You drive it in game like every other loco. It would be pointless to include it except to end up not interacting with it or drive it. Tsg wouldn't allow that.
     
  3. SHINO BAZ

    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    I like he chose a different version of of the upgraded 360 class shunter but this has a very specific type of feature,there has to be some point in useing this verson for this route.What about the possibility that a new on screen remote feature will be added that gives this specific locomotive functions other normal ones don't have while being remotely controlled? TSG might be trying to add something new to TSW.

    Hold it.Normally you have to be sitting in the engineers seat to operate any locomotive even in outside camera mode,what if this locomotive can be remotely controlled while your character is standing outside the locomotive.
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    We'll have to wait until the livestream to see what he implemented.
     
  5. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    There is no remote control i'm afraid, no more so than the usual.

    The main difference i think is that this has the older safety system on it pre-PZB - but let's get Lukas and Ed to explain it tonight :)
     
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  6. Labra

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    The 363 that's already in the game is just a modernized version of the 365, they're both remote controllable shunters. The reason the 363 couldn't be used is because the 365s were only rebuilt into 363s from 1997 onwards, with the main overhaul being an engine swap from a Maybach engine to a Caterpillar one.
     
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  7. solicitr

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    The 363 also has remote control functionality IRL. You can even see the box for it in the cab. After all, a 363 is a 365 with an engine swap.

    The Saga of the V 60
    In the 1950s and into the 60s DB ordered a boatload of a standard 600-hp diesel shunter, roughly comparable to the Gronk ("V 60" meant "diesel, 600 hp") from just about all of Germany's loco builders: Krupp, Mak, Henschel, Krauss-Maffei, everybody. Some of them were built with ballast added for extra traction, and these were, originally, called V 60(s) -"s" for schwer, heavy.

    With the 1968 renumbering, the V 60 and V 60(s) became the 260 and 261, respectively, 260 being the direct "translation" of V 60. And so they remained for 20 years, but then a bureaucratic change was made in 1987: the 260/1s were reclassified as Kleinloks or "small locomotives. This was operationally significant, because under existing regs and union agreements a Kleinlok did not require a fully-trained and licensed driver, so long as it stayed off the main lines. With the reclassification, "2" was no longer applicable so they took on the Kleinlok code of 3: 360 and 361.

    But very shortly this would change again, as these yard-only locomotives would be even more useful as (optionally) remotely controlled units. Those with R/C equipment added were renumbered yet again, this time to 364 and 365 (in actual fact, there were no 364s- only one non-heavy was R/C equipped at the time, and they wound up labeling it a 365 also).

    It's also the case that these little workhorses were getting old, and their motors tired, and so DB undertook to replace the engines in those V 60s they weren't selling off or scrapping. The original Maybach was replaced with a new Caterpillar diesel, and the light and heavy V 60 (Catt)s were renumbered, one more bloody time, to 362 and 363. Notice that there are 362s but never were 364s: this is because DB continued to add R/C gear to unaltered 361s and 262s as they were re-engined.

    So, what a mess! V 60, V 60(s), 260, 261, 360, 361, 364, 365, 362, 363- all referring to the same basic engine.

     
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  8. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    Here a view of a cab of a BR 365.
    It looks very similar to the one of the BR 363.
    [​IMG]
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Mods: Weirdly, when I attempt to edit this post the forum software won't let me, hitting it with an "inappropriate" tag. Say wheat?
     
  10. Fitz

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    I got the same about an hour ago too.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, both the 363 and G6 have a remote visible in the cab but can't be used.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Not "instead of." It can be operated either from the cab or by R/C; at different times one or the other is more convenient.
     
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    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    I remote control all the trains in TSW using my PS controller.

    I’ll get me coat…
     
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  14. Inkar

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    It's the only case where a PS or Xbox controller is more realistic than Raildriver :D
     
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  15. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If you are wondering where remote control box is located its behind you on 363 & 365. Keep in mind the Niddertalbahn uses Mainz Bischofsheim as it's classification yard
     

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