(db Expert 101 Cost)how Much Do You Think The New Expert Dlc Will Cost.

How much do you think the new expert dlc will cost when it releases.

 

suppose we'll see tomorrow. I expect as normal loco dlc's are around 16 or 18 euro's. I'd say the extra work makes this 25. maximum of 30. going over route prices will most likely hurt sales in my opinion.

 

Do you think it gonna be a little expensive since it gonna be massive detailed on the real deal as they mentioned in YouTube

 

yeah. they mentioned a higher price because of all of the added systems and research and thus the extra work and time needed

 

As much as i want it, i wouldn't pay over TSW 2020/2 loco dlc price for 19.99 for it. Unless they package it with a route as a bundle its still a loco dlc at the end of the day that only has ai on 2 routes.

 

I agree. but I do expect it to be more expensive sadly

 

In that case the sounds has to be authentic. I mean really to the needy greedy. I have a feeling that I’m gonna purchase this on day one. And this do come with the cab car so I think that nice to.

 

Definitely more than other loco dlc, which is understandable considering all the extra effort.

Excited for the stream, hopefully this thing lives up to the hype.

 

I feel is 24.99, cheaper than the route addon and also higher than the regular loco addon

 

Thats most likely the price. To much brings nothing. People they have to choose without knowledge about Germany trains doesn't pay more than that. Its a scale and you have to ask you self "how i will raised the price without the possibility to lose customers due to missing affection with the German railway system"

 

If Skyhook are charging £12.99 for a slightly upgraded class 158 DLC, I wouldn't be surprised if an expert loco costs at least double that.

My guess is £19.99 on a good day, or £24.99 if they think people will pay extra for the cab car.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if it's more than 24.99. I expect 26.99 EUR

 

I’m going to take a stab at £18.99, with a limited 10% off for owners of the existing version.

Rather pricey if that’s the case, especially as not entirely a new loco like the 218 was.

Either way, too rich for my taste, could almost fund a route purchase for that amount certainly in TSC and ultimately, once you’re in the cab and driving, the motion and sound are going to be pretty much the same as the original.

Would really rather the time had gone into finishing the 420 or doing a class not already in game like a 141 or 151 which would sell like a hot cake.

 

34,95€ is my guess

 

I‘m guessing £29.99. As it’s a loco and cab car + extra detail.

I don’t expect a discount for owning the current DB BR 101. I don’t see why TSG would offer a discount because you‘ve previously bought a DTG Version. Be nice though!

Edit : Looks like I was correct.
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/db-br-101-‘expert’-coming-soon.83231/

 

For me its a little to much and what do you expect?! It have only on 2 timetable runs and they are re-used....

 

It‘s making me think twice. In Steam, In Swiss Francs things are often 25% more than the Euro price despite the Swiss Franc being worth more than the Euro.

I like it and want it and expected it to be expensive. I was hoping to be wrong.

 

The official confirmed price is £29.99

and I notice some people are already moaning about the price.

I’m not sure what people were expecting with an EXPERT LOCO here…

for example, go look at war thunder dlc. Then come back here

It’s an understandable price for today, as something that has been expertly crafted.

 

Oh, please. Unprecedented price given the 218 came in at half that. So it has a few extra features which, as already said, won't make much difference to how it drives, looks and sounds out the front window once in motion. The point being a route DLC usually with a new loco comes in for the same price. You can buy complete games for less than that.

Sadly there will always be a blinkered few who just drool over whatever DTG and their associates dish up which is sadly why they will probably get away with it.

 

Look at APs enhancement packs on TSC, they are often times 30 quid? Yet they make expertly crafted locos as well, why isn’t anyone complaining about the prices of them?

 

Still doesn't make it right, but if you're fine with it - knock yourself out mate.

 

Suit yourself then. It’s not going to appeal to everyone anyway.

 

€35.99/£29.99/$39.99 are all the prices from official reveal. This is exactly what will move expert addons into "But nobody buys that, so we will not make any more!" territory. It could have been half price, and sell three times as much..

 

Exactly! I fully expect to pay £60 for MSFS in the autumn but that will come with numerous aircraft and a whole world to fly them in. TSW might just be making way for the file space, too.

 

Double the cost of a normal loco add on was where I was thinking this would land, and be acceptable.

£30 is just laughable & the above comment is on target, this is just going to make these products a failure.

Most routes that the 101 runs on are what, 20 - 30 minutes long, a big factor of playability and a factor that’s an issue in most loco DLC’s. 2 rather limited timetables isn’t going to cut it at that price, and the usual ‘play it in free roam’ is the cherry on top.

£30 for a loco is one thing, but for me the bigger issue is barely any routes in TSW show off the 101 as it is, there is no gameplay value in this sort of product at that price, when the majority of services are 20 minute runs.

KWG is a small timetable but it’s at least a long run, seems an oversight not to include it. To be honest it was an oversight not to put this on every route that runs a 101 currently.

 

If you were seriously expecting this loco to the same price as a standard loco dlc. That is crazy.

this is train sim world, it’s a black belt in route and loco prices. Of course they were gonna pull something like this

 

Everything TSG made was worth the money and then some.

 

I think people are allowed to moan about the price, everyone has bills to pay and £30 for one virtual train is hard to justify for most people. What's not ok is to attack people for buying it/not buying it. I hope this DLC does well because I want TSG to succeed but from a pure business standpoint i'm very doubtful this will perform well.

As noir mentioned it would not surprise me if expert locos don't take off

 

Was never expecting it to go for £12 or £13, but £20 would have come in at a much more pleasing level and probably sold far more copies. All TSG/DTG have done with this pricing policy is divide the community, garner a certain amount of ill feeling towards a developer where previously there was none. This is even more outrageous than SHG reskinning the Class 158 for Scotrail and charging the full loco DLC price.

 

You know what, I’m gonna take a break from the forums at the moment, and have a dunk in the hotel pool, this Turkish weather is killing me

 

It's a piece of entertainment that isn't essential to live. Even grocery prices are expensive. You buy when you have the money and what you want at the end of the day

 

I can buy food at Aldi or Lidl which is every bit as good as the stuff Marks and Spencer sell with a fancy wrapper for twice the price (or half the quantity).

 

When the routes are generally short its less appealing. If the outlook is similar to the high price aircraft in Flight sims then it must be acknowledged that they can be flown anywere and around the world. In Train sim land we are told to expect shorter routes on each platform in time and that its hard to develop for. Ok point noted but its hard to spend money a second time for DLC which I have the limited functionality version for if it doesnt have somewhere really good to run. Hamburg to Hannover in would be great. Whilst we have Hamburg it goes to Lubbeck, far less scope for train watching or interesting drives.

I appreciate that TSG have put a lot of work into this and it certainly wil be interesting to see how it sells but I for one am waiting for the sale.

 

No one is twisting anyone's arm to pay that price.

Look, I'm not into German content, however, if hypothetically a expert mode 4CEP (for example) came to TSW, that alot more work had gone into it, adding more realism to the driving experience, would I pay alot more money for it? Yes. It's a no brainer for me. If a longer route takes more time and development it will cost more, and its no different with rolling stock...

 

It's less about if I will buy it or not – I probably will, although there is not much incentive to do so for full price, when in a month this will be considered legacy/compatible content, as well as DTG's recent history of chaotic -80% discounts on fresh products.

It's more about that their managers will now say that this is not a profitable product and they will not allow for any future development in the area.

It could have been accessible showcase of what TSW is capable of, pulling in many new players over time, who would throw piles of money at them in long-term for various other content. Instead, it is priced as a niche product that only couple interested people will buy and make it something that does not make sense to repeat from numbers perspective.

Not to say that as somebody who was around since very first CSX:HH playable versions, this is what was initially promised as a baseline level of detail for the game's content. And as a reminder, this set of features is a standard for TSC freeware mods in CZ/SK, for example.

 

A video game is not a necessity. Don't buy it if you can't afford it. Simple.

 

Good question! I also wonder if you might make it less niche with a lower price and then maybe attract a lot more buyers with the result that you also earn more. It might feel like I earn more with a much higher price but if half as many buy it do you also keep the same under the line?! I don't know.

 

For anybody who is saying that they do not care for the expert features but then complaining about the price being too high, your opinion is irrelevant, this product is simply not for you. Nobody is forcing anybody else to buy it. I for one would love an expert UK loco, just not that into German stuff personally.

 

What? Than you missed the whole point that they offer the option to turn it of.... If its Expert leave it Expert... Otherwise its not really fair to ask a higher price and claim "you can turn it off"

 

Just seen the €36 price and nearly fainted. Are DTG setting this up to fail? Put it up at €20 and you will sell twice as many, who the heck set this price and thought this would be considered acceptable by the community? This is full route price, wtf DTG?

Edit: corrected price from €35 to an even crazier €36. Utterly outrageous pricing that some people will pay just to have a Steuerwagen, which really should have been included with the original BR101 release. No doubt a quality job by the developers, but a great shame that this release will be completely overshadowed by the blatant corporate greed on display here.

 

I'm sat here wondering whether you will pay a "includes toilet" / "does not include toilet" price.
I think however it turns out, it will give me a lot more head scratching than a normal one,.

 

36€?! It's literally more expensive than the TSW4 Standard Edition and people are going to buy that?!

A DLC more expensive than the full game, DTG a normal compagny....

 

Let's see what it comes with before berating it's value.

If it turns up with a shed load more functionality then we'll have been given what we have asked for. Immersion, realism etc.

Basing a statement on price without determining it's value is quick out the block.

I'm curious to see what it offers

 

I feel like free roam is being used more often as an excuse not to make more locomotives compatible with certain routes? There's two routes with this train and a majority of the timetable entries are 5 minute runs to set a train up for service. You'd at least have an argument (albeit not a good one) if it worked with more of your existing DLC.

No high-speed route? Only ten services and three scenarios? No timetable substitution? - I have no doubt the level of detail is fantastic, but when accompanied with very little to actually use it on I don't feel the asking price is fair.

edit: spelling

 

The free roam "selling point" is completely a joke.... For sure!

 

I think we can all agree that the DLC will be good but is it worth €36? I don't think so, even if the DLC is very very good as said before there are few things to use and that's all, I think the DLC shouldn't be worth that much (especially since we're talking about the DB 101, an express train that travels in around 20 minutes)

And above all I don't find it normal that a DLC is more expensive than the full game, especially when the DLC in question is a train and not a route

 

Wait until you see TSW5's price.

It wil be £80 at this rate.

 

Please don't exaggerate! The reality is that this package may be too expensive but to say that about all products is of course nonsense

 

When has that ever happened on these forums! Every release be it loco or route is the same drama fuelled soap opera.

 

Sorry I don't know what you mean in this sentence this is a product that has never been released in this form and it should be clear that the opinions are very clear.... Still way too high..... I have also never experienced this being stated as extremely as it is now and I have been active on this forum for many years (2018)