Defunct Br Classes

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  1. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Although some may argue that there is already enough British content, i would love to see recreations of defunct BR Classes of locomotives and MUs that can no longer be seen in reality. To experience these would be awesome as so many were scrapped for simply being non standard types. For now we only have photos and very little video footage of them in service along with written accounts of their lives which in some cases were short.
     
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  2. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Locomotive classes with no surviving examples are...

    13 Tinsley master and slave shunters
    16
    21
    22 Baby Warships
    23 Baby Deltics
    29
    41 original Warships
    53 Falcon
    70 original 2 SR electric variants
    74

    DMU and DEMU classes are...

    105
    106
    111
    112
    113
    120 cross country dmu
    123 cross country dmu
    124 transpennine dmu
    125
    126
    128 Parcels dmu
    129 Parcels dmu
    130 Parcels dmu
    151 prototype Sprinter
    204 demu
    206 demu
    210 prototypes
    251/261 Blue Pullman

    EMU (ac and dc) classes are...
    301
    304
    305
    310
    316
    370 APT-P
    402
    413
    418/0/1/2
    424
    432
    445 4PEP
    446 2PEP
    457
    460
    485
    486
    487
    505
    506
     
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  3. Northerner

    Northerner Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice to see some EMUs in the game which have no surviving examples. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few classes I'd like to see:
    506 - Woodhead 1500V DC units
    505 - Altrincham 1500V DC units
    503 - Bury 1200V DC units (one unit does survive and is being restored, but I do think they'd be a great to see with their unique side contact third rail)
    501 - North London Line 650V third and fourth rail units.
    Tyneside 600V EMUs of any period (as I think it's a shame that BR de-electrified the tyneside network which led to its decline, so to have it brought back to life in TSW would be excellent)
     
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    With these trains it would be near impossible to get any kind of reliable reference resources to accurately model them.
     
  5. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    There are some reference sources around and there might even be some operational staff still able to help too. But the longer you leave it, the harder it will become to do.
     
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    the 76 has no surviving models left
     
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    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    There is one. 26020 (76020) is at the NRM.
     
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    Northerner Well-Known Member

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    That'd definitely be the major difficulty in recreating them. With any luck, the original technical drawings may still survive in archives but high quality sounds would be very difficult to get, not to mention getting the handling of the loco correct. But this has been done before in Train Sim, with the class 506 being made for the Woodhead route, so it's not entirely impossible.
     
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    Sounds would be the main issue. Just look at the debate over the years about what the (proper, original) Blue Pullman units sounded like.
     
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  10. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    The engines used were (i believe) the same as in class 22 and 41 Diesel Hydraulic locomotives. There is a society currently attempting to scratch build a class 22 with a surviving power unit. Also another society attempting to scratch build a class 23 with a salvaged power unit but this group seems further along with the project than the former.
     
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  11. isaac47593

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    I would love the Class 21 on an eastern Scottish route set sometime in the sixties
     
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