Gameplay Dispatcher Not Setting Switches?

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  1. FreddieTheShepherd

    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    I recently tested my timetable for my own Almtalbahn route, but I discovered a train just stopping in front of a signal. No trains are in front of him, but I discovered two switches not set on the train's route.

    Does that mean, that the dispatcher doesn't do his job with changing switches? How can I solve this, I already filled out all in the timetable defaults, I never had the problem before....
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    (I mean the train i the right top corner, 2x BR 642s)
     
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    I don't know the exact setup but I encountered this problem in Cologne-Aachen and maybet that's your's as well:
    • dispatcher generally can set paths from signalled area to signalled area with ZERO manual junctions in between
    • it can set paths from unsignalled area with manual junctions into signalled area if there is a yard exit signal
    • it can set paths from signalled area into unsignalled area
    What it cannot do:
    • path from signalled area through yard to signalled area with yard not having an exit signal
    • in terms of TSW, you are in a yard then and automated junctions in the yard area cannot be set by dispatcher (route building mistake)
    Specifically to your issue: have you simulated the timetable and looked into the log what exactly is the holdup? It should be stated there what dependency is causing the train to be held in front of a signal.
     
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    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    Well, I´m still building the timetable and saw that in a random PIE test, but you now brought me to an idea: All of my signals are set as "Mainline". I´m now starting to update them, but I´m unsure where to use what. Is the following example true?
    (I accidentally wrote Shunting instead of Running Shunt)
    Unbenannt2.png (Shunting signals on the mainline should be defined as "Running Shunt" I think, I didn´t include that in the sketch here)

    But on the other hand, I now discovered that these signals are all configured as "Mainline" in Salzburg Hbf for example. Maybe this whole issue is caused by shunting signals configured as "Mainline"?
     
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    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    I´ve now tested again, the train is still stopping in front of the shunt signal. :(
     
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    What type do the junctions have?
     
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    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    All junctions here are automatic, if you mean that.
     
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    In that case you must not configure it as yard. If the yard begins at the green signal, then the dispatcher won't be able to set any subsequent automatic junctions.
     
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    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    So, green and yellow have to stay as "mainline"? On the official routes, there is it this way.
     
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    A yard in the TSW sense is an area where the dispatcher has no say. The yard manager takes over but in a yard you can practically do anything you want as loco and drive anywhere and back. There are no real protected pathways.

    The dispatcher is setting a path from the last mainline signal (can also be a shunting signal) to the closest yard exit signal. After that, you are considered to be in a yard and no automatic junctions can be set. In front of the next automatic junction needs to come a yard exit signal which is then indicating the end of the yard area.
     
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    FreddieTheShepherd Well-Known Member

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    Okay, that´s making sense. I will have another look into it tomorrow, maybe I´m deleting some signals and look how this whole thing works on official routes - I hope that other stations also have as many signals as mine...:|
     
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    A working yard can be found in Cologne-Aachen at Cologne Depot. Look for the area with manual junctions next to the turntable.

    There is one yard exit signal for the entire yard.
     
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    All of the signals on my route map are marked yellow. Does this have a meaning or is it just like that?
     
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    I think that means that these signal's routing tables aren't confirmed yet. When you tick the box in there, it will go green.
     
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    Thanks. I did it like this. Now the signals are shown in green. However, all Zs signals don't work and the dispatcher sets switches incorrectly, so that trains sometimes do not receive a green signal.
     

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