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Do You Like Lirr Dlc ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by solon, Nov 23, 2018.

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  1. Yes

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    69.8%
  2. No

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. I don't buy this DLC

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
  1. solon

    solon Member

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    I appreciate this new DLC, the modelling of trains is magnificent, the scenery is good. It's a good work by DTG.

    But some players asked for the refund : The life in the scenery is missing. i think it's true. This is a very urbanized zone: there should be many cars and trucks on roads, and many passengers in the rush hours. But nothing. Also, some bugs (Passengers on the roof of stations Sic!) and optimization problems.

    And do you find that the driving of trains is there realistic and well ? (I have no idea)
     
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  2. Daniel Bloch

    Daniel Bloch Well-Known Member

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    Yes but service mode is to empty, scenarios are good and much AI traffic / static trains.
     
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  3. heyitspopcorn

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    Mixed feelings about the DLC. The M7 is modeled beautifully, the game world looks fantastic, and it's probably the most polished DLC released so far. But it still has the same atrocious interior lighting that has been present in every route since CSX:HH. The route feels empty and lifeless for the 'busiest route' in NYC, which is something like the 10th or 11th largest city in the world by population. ATC seems, to me at least (and I will admit that I only have a rudimentary understanding of ATC, ASCES, TWPS, ATP, etc.), poorly implemented: isn't it supposed to get the driver to slow down before signal changes? So why does it drop from line speed (80mph) straight down to 30mph (at an interlock) without stepping down to at least 60 at the preceding signal?

    I've requested a refund through Steam. I'm sorry, Dovetail: I want to support the hobby and further development of Train Sim World. I bought CSX: Heavy Haul just to get GWE when it came out--because HH was the 'base game' and needed for the DLC (and then you thank us by dropping CSX:HH and bundling NEC, GWE, and RT together--kind of reminds me how Microsoft said there would 'never' be Xbox One without Kinect, and then they dropped Kinect about a year later). I put up with the terrible diesel-electric simulation. I put up with the short, lifeless, and thoroughly underwhelming NEC. I put up with bad occlusion and thoroughly broken ASCES representation. I bought WSR and only played it a couple of times because it's beautiful but dull and lacks variety. But this is the final straw. I can't justify continually forking over money for pretty, but half-developed routes with fundamental issues and a vague promise that maybe, just maybe, one day some of those bugs will be patched, maybe PIS will be implemented, maybe development tools will be released for third party content.
     
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  4. Puffing Nora

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    The last dlc i bought was WSR. I own GWE and the base game. GWE is a lot of fun in a relaxing way and I enjoy it.
    I also agree with the above. Until the world is less dead, more immersive, less buggy, and less repetitive (up and down between reading and london with no fuel stop etc despite facilities there), Im in no hurry to purchase anything else.
    The patch was good, and the 66 and hst are now much more engaging, but how long did it take to get there..
    Ho hum.
     
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  5. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    There seems to be a never ending cycle of releasing buggy, incomplete and short routed DLC.

    Until third party and the community can make routes, this is to be expected from DTG unfortunately.
     
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  6. LeadCatcher

    LeadCatcher Well-Known Member

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    Interesting 65% of the votes are positive stating “yes” they like the DLC, but those who comment are mostly negative... guess those that like it are having fun in the simulation instead of posting in The forums :)
     
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  7. Daniel Bloch

    Daniel Bloch Well-Known Member

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    I did not vote here because for me it's not just a yes or no.

    If I take the scenarios it's a yes, empty service mode a no.

    I voted in the other poll for "yes could be better"
     
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  8. NorthRail1

    NorthRail1 Well-Known Member

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    Long Island Rail Road is definitely a mixed dlc. The scenery is good (much better than NEC: New York) and the M7 model is excellent however the service mode needs improving. Some ideas on improving the service mode here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/long-island-rail-road-service-mode-overhaul.13771/
    The service mode just feels empty like that in Rapid Transit. The levels of traffic in the service mode should be like in the scenarios, where the route feels much busier.
     
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  9. solon

    solon Member

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    Thank-you for all and interesting answers. I am rather satisfied by this new DLC. And I am satisfied not to be the only one, even if unfortunately we are not many in the TSW community (I hope the editor change this).

    I hope that DTG will answer our demands to improve it.
     
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  10. PatrickB

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    I like the DLC but agree with all that was said above, and I do hope it will not take over a year to get patched up to fix, some of these bugs like people standing on platform roofs or people sinked into the platform should not have been overlooked which makes me wonder how this DLC even made it into release with these visual noticible bugs. But besides the bugs I do love the route.
     
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    My only complaint, is service mode is severely lacking AI traffic.

    Dovetail Games you must be able to add more AI, without killing performance.☹️
     
  12. bart2day

    bart2day Active Member

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    In my opinion this is great DLC in some respects but once again very lacklustre in others. When will DTG learn that what makes a route feel authentic is not just how shiny a train looks or how detailed a cab is, it's how much activity is going on around you and if the world feels alive. GWE has 37 miles of track and has over 270 services in service mode and even this feels like a Sunday service. LIRR, one of the busiest railroads in America has approx 180 for 40 miles of track. Hubs like Jamaica and NY Penn have no trains in them sometimes. No wonder it feels dead. Cars still don't move on the roads and people still behave like zombies bumping into each other. I understand that processing power has to be prioritised but making the world alive has got to be a priority and in my opinion holds back every TSW route right now.


    Also, why only one train, the M7? What made GWE and Ruhr Sieg Nord so good is that they have 3 trains to drive. 2 isn't great but providing one is just lazy.
     
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  13. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

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    I really do like it. I do hope that the signaling gets fixed, so that it works properly. It’s very close, but it could be better. The route is beautiful and I love the branch lines. The M7 is so great to operate!
     
  14. Nick_Brad

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    I'm glad you feel this too, I was trying earlier to go through, hunting the collectables and it was simply impossible to use the trains to hop between stations... either I could walk between 5 stations before a train came, or when I did finally catch a train, it missed all of the minor stops and just took me straight to Jamaica.
     
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  15. mrchuck

    mrchuck Active Member

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    I would like to see more stations on the lirr dlc like Huntington,Babylon and Far Rockaway and Ronkonkoma.
     
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