DTG read this!!!!! I already know most people will disagree with me because the DLR is a ATO service, but its something I really wanted to see in a TSW game. And im pretty sure the DLR can also be manually operated. A line going from Woolwich Arsenal > Bank would make sense using B07 and B2K Stocks. But, it would be fun to have a line from Lewisham > Bank. Another thing is, I do think people forgot you can RIDE trains in TSW4, Not just drive them. I have never seen a suggestion on this, but most likely DTG is not going to listen to me, or anyone who would want the DLR in game. The Lewisham to Bank line includes: Lewisham, Deptford Bridge, Greenwich, Cutty sark, Island Gardens, Mudchute, Crossharbour, South Quay, Heron Quays, Canary Wharf, West India Quay, Westferry, Limehouse, Shadwell, and Bank. The Woolwich Arsenal to Bank line includes: Woolwich Arsenal, King George V, London City Airport, Pontoon dock, West india, Canning Town, East india, Blackwall, Poplar, Westferry, Limehouse, Shadwell, and Bank. The DLR's average speed is 80 km/h/ 50 MPH whilst the maxspeed is 100 km/h or 82 MPH. Again, the DLR would be nice to see in game, It isn't a long route that takes you 7 minutes to get from Station to Station, and its not one of those lines that most of the time just go through a bunch of grass, It is probably one of the only lines I know to have alot of buildings around it. Seriously, if you dont know what the DLR is, you should check it out. Just because its a light railway, does not mean its going to be boring and slow. Hopefully those who don't know what the DLR is and disagree with me check out the DLR, it will change your mind about it. Thanks for taking time out your day to read this absolutely long essay about why the DLR should be added. For those who dont know, these are B07's and B2K's. B2K stock B07 Stock
The DLR can be manually operated but what from I know, that is very rare and is usually only during emergencies. Whilst I would normally disagree with the DLR in TSW, the only way I could see the route be made for TSW is that the developers 'abuse' the function of AI trains and have only 1 or 2 scenarios where the player is driving a DLR train during an emergency. This would mean that the route would have only 1 or 2 scenarios and no timetable mode (only on foot mode) but of course the route would be avaliable for scenario planner and quick drive. However, after looking online, it looks like when a DLR train is driven by someone, it's not on the train and rather most likely in a control tower or something like that. I'm not from London so my knowledge on London rail systems is limited
There is a member of staff on every DLR train, but their general function is more like that of a guard than a driver; they open and close the train doors, dispatching the train from stations, tell the ATO system when it's ok to go and can check people's tickets while the train is on the move. They can drive the train if needs be, each unit has a control desk at the very front, where the cab would go. With that in mind you'd get more mileage out of a DLR addon (for which I don't see any reason not to build the whole thing in one go, so Bank and Tower Gateway to Lewisham, Woolwich Arsenal and Beckton plus the lines from Canary Wharf to Stratford and Canning Town to Stratford International, it isn't exactly ridiculously long) if DTG wanted to do a Guard Mode again, you wouldn't be doing much in the way of driving on it. If you want a light rail system that isn't a tramway, a better idea IMO would be the Tyne & Wear Metro, since those trains are actually driven manually and operated like virtually all heavy rail services are.
It’s not at all likely to happen as there really isn’t any way in which it would give TSW players as good an experience as erm, well, any other route, a route where you can drive the trains in normal service. Just because it exists and runs on rails does not mean it is a good fit for a train simulator. I guess with the public editor now a thing somebody could make it as a personal project but I can’t see it ever being considered for an official release because… you don’t drive the trains and TSW is mainly about driving the trains.
The only reason to create a DLR train set would be as an AI layer for e.g. c2c line. Otherwise, nah, no point.
The 92 and 2007s have 4 driving modes: AUTO - ATO running ATPM - Automatic Train Protection Manual Emergency Shunt - Allows unrestricted train movements mainline up to 20kph Push Mode - Used in train rescue. Trains are manually driven in and out the depots everyday and a service does not operate without a member of staff on board. Staff can also be involved in depot movements and train washes. Staff members must operate the train (AUTO) from the front panel after 8pm Thursday and Fridays to ensure safety (people more likely to be drunk). Recovering a train from a fault involves various switches to be operated or the train to be driven manually. The staff on board are also responsible for isolating faulty doors. The new B23 trains have additional driving modes such as ATPM-O where the joystick acts as a deadmans leaver and to be used when workers are trackside. Personally I would still push for this to come in game. If all the routes were to be done on a full timetable with all 3 different rolling stock it could be interesting. Even maybe a mini story mode looking back at how the DLR started with the old rolling stock and limited route to the existing route we have today.
I’d rather have one of the ATO tube lines such as the Jubilee Line, Northern Line, Central Line, etc before we get a DLR route in TSW.
I think instead of driving it we could be the PSA (Passenger Service Agent) who open and close the doors (like a guard) but also you press a button to start the train at the panel. At the front of the train there is a start button and you can close the doors from there as well.
A "Guard mode" only route just seems like an enormous amount of work (remember elevated railways require more customs models) for a route that would be of limited appeal. I don't think it'll happen.
Central line would be incredible. My absolute dream which I would love to be recreated. 1992 stock and the route covers over 46 miles and there are 49 miles.
MRFS. Hello there, sorry to disturb your day as I understand that you are probably busy at work at the moment but I was just wondering if another London Underground route would be on the cards. I think it is time for it to be recreated as it is an incredible network and has been highly requested. I think that it is time for it to be a part of the Train sim world franchise as the Bakerloo line was not made perfectly in my opinion and would be incredible to have it in all of its glory. It is the oldest and geeatest metro system in the world in my opinion. I understand that it is available on TSC however I do not have access to a gaming PC and I am sure that I am in the same situation as many other console users. It seems as if the TFL content is popular and I believe the Suffragette line was recreated perfectly so it would be incredible for you to expand on your small collection of TFL routes. Thanks for taking the time to read this and all the best.
