Does The Br430 Have Lzb

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  1. dr#8182

    dr#8182 Active Member

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    As the title reads pretty much.

    I notcied using the CTRL + ENTER method only turned on PZB. But my online research suggests it has it. Is google wrong or is DTG doing a DTG?
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Its not featured in on this train.
     
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    DeltaFOX2k7 Well-Known Member

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    The route is set in 2018, at this time the Frankfurt S-Bahn network was not yet equipped with LZB.

    You can easily tell whether LZB is available on a section by looking at the cable in the middle of the tracks.
    If there is a cable, LZB is available; if there is no cable, LZB is not available.
     
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    Vinination Well-Known Member

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    It does not have LZB. At least not the Frankfurt version.
    If you are unsure if a loco does/doesnt have LZB, you can usually recognize it
    by the fact that there is a bar-like distance meter directly in front of you, which lights up after LZB is activated.
    In more modern locos this is often displayed differently and not easy noticeable.
     
  5. dr#8182

    dr#8182 Active Member

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    There are some LZB sections near the airport that the S8 runs along from my limited knowledge
     
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    dr#8182 Active Member

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    I saw the normal location for an MFD LZB panel was there but then of course other replies say it wasnt fully LZB ready yet. Thats fair enough then i just thought DTG may have just "forgot" like they did with the 442 and some Dostos
     
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    vodka#2734 Well-Known Member

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    There is a small section of LZB at the airport's overground station, but the S8 and S9 take a different route to the underground station.
     
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    jesper2805 Well-Known Member

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    LZB in regional trains is not very common.... Even trains with a maximum speed of 160km/h have no LZB. LZB will also be replaced by ETCS so newer trains have ETCS instead of LZB to be more future proof
     
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    Which raises a valid point- to future proof themselves, DTG are going to have to implement ETCS, and not just for German routes. They already have a basis, in that Rivet got it mostly right (and partially wrong) on Luzerne-Surzee. But it has to come, because DB and the other European systems are finally rolling it out now.
     
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    There's no reason to add LZB for a train that cannot reach speeds higher than 160km/h.
     
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    There is when you consider some lines are far too high capacity to be equipped with just PZB.
     
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    dr#8182 Active Member

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    Ill hear your point and ill raise you the BR423. Uses LZB for close running high capacity work near Munchen on Munchen-Augsburg
     
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  13. solicitr

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    Actually it’s very useful for traffic control
     

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