Honestly I think the dsd on the class 377’s sound needs to be increased because I’ve been penalty braked 3 times now
Personally I’m more worried about the silent 313 DSD, I’m playing with minimal HUD and I can’t remember how many times the emergency brake was triggered.
That's a wrong implementation that's been there since the launch of the 313. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/313-silent-dsd.47800/#post-403253
On my PlayStation, they sound really quiet, it’s very easy to get caught out while driving , I don’t know if it’s just me though
It’s not coming out from the controller with the 377. It can be, but you have to play with the full HUD so you can see the “!” symbol appearing.
That’s how I usually find it’s broken, I play with hud and acknowledgement does nothing on series x so I have to come to the emergency stop and isolate it for rest of the journey.
I know it and the volume is at maximum but it’s working on the Class 801 or the Vectron by exemple, not the 377.
Strange also..I have a similar issue..have the controller speaker on in settings.. works on azuma fine but on this it doesn't and class 387!
The 313 shouldn't have DSD, it doesnt have it in real life. The most accurate thing you can do is NOT to turn it on. When we get to the fix for it, the fix will be to remove the functionality so that it works as per prototype. For now, just *dont turn it on*. Matt.
One thing that confuses me is if the 313 doesn’t have DSD functionality in real life, what is the purpose of the DSD isolation on the model or would that be a model error ?
Hi Matt. All UK trains have DSD it's a requirement for mainline running. It's DVD the 313 shouldn't have. Still waiting for that day 1 patch though!
Apologies you're quite correct. DSD has no noise though, and is automatically pressed by the game. It's DVD as you say that should be removed and just the same - it can be avoided by simply not turning it on. Matt.
Did the volume of the vigilance devices change sometime between TSW2 and TSW4? While I haven't played 377 recently (or the mentioned 313), I can barely hear it on Class 47 on WSR - it stopped me a couple of times in just one run. Was their volume maybe put under either of the volume sliders I decreased to 30% (MenuSFXVolume or SFXSoundVolume, or maybe MusicSoundVolume that is set to 0.20)? I could hear them loudly on TSW2, but I haven't played preserved routes on TSW3 to see if the problem started appearing there, or is it a new thing on TSW4. I'm on PC.
Ok so I checked in with the Audio team and they had a look - first up the Class 47 doesnt have vigilance, it has the older DSD which has no audio anyway. They looked at AWS and... seems that somehow the audio is now missing entirely for some reason, so they are going to rectify that. Safety System audio, when experienced from within the train, is managed by the Game Sound Effects volume control. When your camera is outside the cab, it's done via the External Alert audio control. Does that sound like it explains your issue? If not can you ping me a short video ?
Yes, that was it. I think in the past this controlled the UI volume instead of a separate setting for the user interface sounds, because that was the setting I copied from the earlier editions of the game. I wasn't hearing the "beep,beep,beep,beep..." alert that is sounding every minute when all safety systems on 47 were turned on when the SFX volume was set to 30%. Strangely I was hearing AWS just fine (or maybe I was seeing the sunflower and acknowledged it instead). First I checked it by switching the HUD back to normal and the alert icon was appearing around once a minute at that time, which I couldn't see with minimal HUD, then I increased the SFX volume to 100%. It made the alert audible both in internal and external view, so I could switch the HUD back to minimal. AWS in Class 47 sounds fine for me.
Wait, you're seeing a 60 second vigilance alarm coming up on the WSR 47? that doesn't match what i was told earlier at all! - I'll raise it with the team again when i'm back in. Matt.
Yes, I checked it twice yesterday evening to be sure I've selected the correct loco. I can check today evening again by turning on safety systems manually instead of using mixed key shortcuts + manual moving switches/levers, to see if there's any difference. First thing I do after starting any service is pressing Ctrl+Enter and Shift+Enter. If that doesn't enable all the safety systems, I stand up and enable the rest of them manually - in WSR Class 47 only one AWS isolation lever is switched with key shortcut, the other one needs to be moved manually.
DSD isolation, yes. But this one is switched automatically with a key shortcut. AWS requires manual interaction on the lever on the right side (the one on left side switches with key shortcut).
