Hello. Today after some delay I’ll be starting the East Coast Legends Project off now I have the first livery in a responsible condition for project launch. So what is the East Coast Legend’s Project all about. Well like most of my recent work it’s all about mixing old with new. To use new units by placing designs that pay homage to the original design before moving on to a more sleek modern designs using new and existing colours. It’s all about doing what I love seeing these great liveries that where so wide spread in the 80’s and 90’s yet still appear on the UK networks. To try to adapt these for use on modern fleets. The basic outlines is simply to create new designs using existing colours. More Information will be provided as the livery is released as six are planned at this early stage.Yet I feel with this project more maybe done to the amount of ideas I have. But with this project and those like the A4 Streamline Heritage Project it will be a slow process. It’s also on the run up to Christmas so this will have an impact on projects also,,plus I do have a secret plan rolled up my sleeve. A little gift from me as a thanks. Okay so that’s it for now I’ll hopefully have Set 801 227 out later today. That’s it for now then folks and as always I hope you enjoy the East Coast Legends Project. Thanks. Lee (TSLP).
Hello folk an update as this project is late so my apology for this. I was doing a few test with weathering but due to closing game down for changes to appear it added time on. So a few pictures to show you what the final product will be. …….
Continued….. As you can see I was getting carried away taking photos so totally lost track of time. Something to note as I used 801 101 and 801 227 together to show where the two designs work when coupled together. The Yellow will line up with each other on the nose under the lower light edge. Something I took into consideration when designing these liveries so if any are mixed they will meet up on the front end. So yes it’s done now,,,again my apology as I did say it would be out yesterday. I just forget how much time closing game down and that takes up. Cheers. Lee (TSLP).
These liveries are really sharp and go well together. They also contrast nicely with your more retro A4 project. Well done.
My life you really don’t understand how hard sorry it been to speak again. I feel so rude Dave for not responding to you or others that have direct messaged to my in box. I am so sorry for not showing support again towards you or others. You see I am being openly personal again but I want you to know I struggle badly. And I say this not bring down the mood but to show that this stupid condition stops me from being involved with other or even get involved when they come forward. I lock up. My work suffers and I come across as rude or ignorant of others. A bit of bad place for a comment on a project page. But I feel it’s like a wall that’s been broken down from my perspective. I’ve dreading reading in box messages and for some reasons this has taken it all away. So not only am I delighted at your comments the fact I feel I have had the world taken of my shoulders is such a relief. I just wish I could find the strength to reach out to the one man that said he would help with my projects. I feel I let him down. Spoiled it all again,,and I have. As always to you and anyone else reading I am sorry for the tone and mood. This is not the place but I could hold back or contain my feelings. As man and gent of old I/We should never be ignorant of others. Thank you Dave. I’ll try come back with some more pictures and information,,,as I defo need to nip of, have a proper strong brew and bang some Bradshaws on to wind down. Them was the days.
This part of the forum really is becoming a favourite of mine to visit. This looks stunning mate certainly an interesting twist on a livery and train we all know and love! Also btw I remember the first post I made on the forum and I were really nervous to look at the replies, but actually when I did I were glad. I am sure if it is someone on this forum the chances are they’ll be lovely and understand why you haven’t been able to respond to them.
I agree with this, I remember my first Creator's Club Roadmap being created and it has since come leaps and bounds and even if my Creator's Club Releases thread does not get that many replies to my announcements that often, I know that people are keen to have a look at what I have planned Those liveries look fantastic rigsby#3981 by the way, how many units are you planning on making?
Same here. I guess that is because we are all creators and, mostly, are being positive rather than looking for some grand DTG conspiracy I think your descriptive prose (never thought I'd use that word on here) also works very well. It certainly puts a smile on my face Perhaps I should set up a thread now that I have uploaded over 50 things? Maybe I should make it about TEA tankers. They seem to be quite popular at the moment
Yes, that's a great idea as all of your releases will be in the one place and it would look neat instead of making a thread for every single release like I used to
Hello folks,,,sorry for disappearing act again. I had to take some time away. I would just like to say I’m shocked at the comments,,,in I am glad to see the discussion topic. It’s also very interesting to see and hear comments from what I would consider top players in there field or work the passion they have and the knowledge,,and their story of their own humble beginnings. And as say a new be on here I have been making liveries for some time. I did at one point have very good subscriber numbers on Class 37 and US locos like the first new UP branding for example close to 1,700 or something like that I can’t remember. Yet in one of my bad moments I deleted the lot of so started to place work back up recently. It’s been hard work wanting to keep work TSW2 users and move forward with newer stuff. This is why I started my threads and post,,,and can I just say I sometimes feel I come across as aggressive in nature or the way I come across in general. That is just me being me with fight or flight situation. If I run then I’m silent. And if I am talking I may come across has abrupt or rude. I wanted to inform users of what’s what and also a way to display my work in more detail and also reach out to those with more knowledge than me on train’s history etc. To collaborate or share information about the locos for the details involved to replicate the loco accurately for the community as a whole. I basically look at all this as why in a community work against each other,,,not support each other as again we are all human we know how much passion and time we put in. It’s human nature to feel like it’s all for nothing after putting so much effort in to post etc. I get the sense reading other comments on here that they too may have had that low moment or no motivation at one point. It does to me yet with my issues just compounds things even more. Like I say for all it just human nature. But why are we say leaders of the game not really thinking as a collective community to embrace each other passion and talents new and old?. Why struggle in our own little corners,,,when and like what I have been trying to do even tho the message may have not been properly represented like The Works Shed do it all under one roof so to speak. Like a place we all go to quick fire off own work and projects that then direct you to your own place so if users like a certain project then they know where to go. Work on joint project for the CC users as a community. We have clear goals and also make something for all to see that we all love. Take the A3 Or Flying Scotsman DLC for example. Between A1 and the rebuilt A3 then around 78 where built in total. All with Names. 60036 “Windsor Lad” to 60112 “St Simon” I have a few in storage like 60096 “Papyrus” and 60110 “Robert the Devil”. I’ve just been busy with other projects like this one and a few more with new ones being added even as we speak. I also keep my eye open to see what’s going on but then why be like that. Is that just me and the competition in me. Or do I get a little nervous of connecting with the community to say hey we all love trains and making livery’s. Why not all work on a set number of locos each?. Speaking from my own experience I feel like I have to keep up like in some form of competition,,,when again why if we as a community can share knowledge and talent to collectively be like a team have more impact to then combine work and own projects with a clear vision and more time to plan ahead. For like I’ve always said,,and don’t like bringing it up but due to my situation but TSW is all that keeps me going from a non working man due to health issues. I just love creating fictional liveries as it’s away to explore and express myself in my passion and love for just making something,,,I am not a full on train enthusiast but don’t get me wrong I can sit and watch videos of old BTF read old books and research as much as I can when my mind will allow me to do so. Why I wanted to bring us all together so we could share and work together for a better experience on TSW be that Real world liveries or fictional work. Yet I know at time I struggles with this or even responding to that help. My threads and Projects post are not there just for me to look like I want to be pig headed not at all. It’s the only place I come to in hope of sharing my passion the process behind it all as some folk maybe interested and a way for the community to either be involved with by sharing their knowledge or loco colours names marking etc. Because I don’t know it all,,,I hardly know anything all has to be researched first. All my goal was and is to share my work with others get there input too,,possibly find away of top CC creators to come together, work and support or help new beginners with how to do there own liveries and place great work up for CC users that are unable to make liveries for them selfs. The Amount of time I wanted to do YouTube Videos as again there not always great and most are younger audiences asking simple questions or asking for liveries to be done from creator’s on the channel. Their calls are often ignored which is a shame. And I’ll be honest here as this had a great baring on my mood shift. A YouTuber featured Two of my locos for which I was very excited about so obviously wanted to say thank you and offer if I could do anything in return. No need to to get in a silly mood I know but it wasn’t the first time I asked him questions about his work as he was saying he made them but to me a mod was used. Was he lying to his audience or misleading them?,,,and not only that for those that spend hours and hours doing all things by hand I feel in away it’s a little bit of unfair competition. Like in the days of Williams and McLaren they will win or look better in this case because mods are used. (No wonder Senna done his nut in) He was doing his best but could compete with technology Sir Frank Williams was using on his cars. And yet in say this I don’t have it in for modders not at all,,,I just think and feel it’s wrong to be taking all the glory for something you haven’t truly done and not being honest to viewers. So I’m going on of on one again so I’ll wrap up as I have new project I would like to announce soon as it’s very special to me as it my way of thanking DTG and. Certain member who I have to say was absolutely fantastic and does really show me who is behind the scenes of DTG. They do care regardless of what some say. I’m not the easy person to deal with I know that but DTG couldn’t have been more understanding. As a company with a small team then this one member certainly went out of his way. I want to show my appreciation and gratitude to DTG members and this one special member of that team that have allowed me plan this exciting new project. Okay well I gone on again,,,so I’ll bid you good day for now. But to wrap up I know being open as I am isn’t always the best policy I get that. But I am who I am and anyone that struggles then you too should try get past them fears. Be man woman or child,,,that like me wanted to do so many thing but hold back then don’t. We are all human and yes where here about train but we can still be human especially in the day we have today. Like what I said to someone not long ago, Trains. What have they done? They helped build the Industrial Revolution,,,moved billions of people when cars was not an option. Kept the country connected in time of war,,,the story’s of waving good bye to loved ones never to be seen again. The story and Image of what trains are they connected us they made great story’s of days gone by. It build this county it made us who we are in away it kept us connected so why not keep us connected now when times are hard. Surly by taking about trains and liveries then to some its more than just that. It’s being able to talk and escape the grinds of life with others that have passion for trains. And why it’s great to see that like what I am doing with a few things,,,I just feel it would be a great opportunity for those with the same passion to see if there any way of us all coming together for one big project. Exchange ideas for threads and visions of what it could be about or presented. I feel with the talent out there we can create something for not only us but for the wider CC user base as a whole. To See the old the new and what if’s for a better TSW experience. So why not start with the A3’s?. My plan was to do the lot all of them,,,I can’t do it on my own. I’m sure you guys would love to see all of them too?. So could we not divide these locos and start the A3 Fleet Project. We know what we’re doing we’re not duplicating each other work we pool colours together so we have a standard match across the fleet. We learn more get better at what we do and hopefully I have bloody good laugh along the way. We as a community,,,together. Build it and they will come YouTubers,,,Livery makers and scenario developers if we work together we may enjoy it together and all get our work seen,,if at the end of the day we all want our five minutes of fame as every one seem to want these days. I do in some sense but its more about being long term and loyal to fans being true to what you love. Making liveries that’s it. Sorry if this messages seems like am I acting I like some big CEO,,,I think I am on high that’s all. I’ll probably be hiding under my rock again tomorrow. Seriously tho,,,thank you too all that commented on here. Hopefully normal serves will resume soon. Lee (TSLP).
Just a quick one and ideas for you threads as I’ll be doing it like this and hopefully I can blend some techniques of links in. The Works Shed was for Me to place quick fire information as we live in a world of fast moving information. So upcoming work or now available as I’d hoped that may have been realised by others new or old to get there work seen along side other work by others. Like a place to look at on your work break like a catalog for all users upcoming or available work. My TSLP thread was or now will be a place for my updates page for locos where I was planning this to work along side it. The All Collection. Basically all work done what DLC was used etc etc. Any Information seen in the update thread will also be updated on the Loco or code as all work has been catalogued. TSLP1F1YWL4NF1EDPBD. These code change from loco to loco or file to file like L2 or L4 meaning done on Me account TSW2 or TSW4. I knew from the start I need to make a log so I could keep track of all 237 I’d end up with either in use or stored. Another reason to know the file location for say uploading as all my work eventually my be re worked but that will remove it from TSW2 and TSW3,,unless I am mistaken. This was future planning and for protection in say game transfer etc. I wanted to know what was loaded from where so the correct file would be transferred or uploaded. So yes basically the All Collection was just for all work done as a point of ref for users wanting to say look at work old and new and for you to see how far you have come in your own work. Project Threads. Again anything mentioned on The Works Shed would be directed to here. So all long term projects would be here. More in-depth information so as the loco information page in The All Collection wouldn’t be over crowded. Photo TSW World Or Photo TSW. A place either for my own use or open as community thread where again just displaying your talent in photo gallery of the random and also away of dropping your work in for you work to get noticed,,say if your just starting out. I have a few little plans and ideas as I feel presentation of work is just as important as the livery. The down side it takes time. If you have more information about then more information needs changing or a higher risk of mistakes when doing so could occur. Information is good but having it to wide spread has it implications. So I just thought I’d bring some ideas up as I seen Dave mentioned about starting up also. And also like in the previous post possibly doing threads together as again it’s only human nature we feel a little deflated if we don’t get a like. I do but it’s not because I feel the community owns me anything,,,I’m not like that. It’s more to do with keeping that positive attitude of returning but with the same vigour you did when you made your first livery or first post. That’s why I’m a perfectly aware of support others and why I should do more for them. Who knows what going on and why should we be judging anyway or feel like theirs a little bit of exclusive members club,,where I feel it could be quite intimidating for beginners to talk or share work. Right well just a few ideas chaps but now I’m getting off. My backs killing me. But just as an example and I know I go on but I’ve been writing since say about 11 o’ clock. It all takes time. But to me it’s dedication to my core values. Being open and honest and do what I love. Making liveries and sharing them with you. Like a new update for 60163 “TORNADO”. Well over due it re work for it was one of my first A3’s done. So I’ll get that shorted today and finish information on this East Coast Project. Bye✌. Lee (TSLP)
Hello again folk. What a day not stopped again,,,as I busy working on this new project with a proper announce due out soon. I just need to clear some licensing hurdles out first but due to the nature of this and for respecting to the clients details I will not disclose such information. Moving on from that I will give some information on the development of the 801 227. I’m as little stuck on where to begin it seems so long since working on it. But I think the overall look and colours would be good place to start. Okay so with 801 227 I wanted to for some time as early as TSW2 but due to save space issues and what I had already made then save space was most certainly an issue. And as time went on just got more distracted with say US locos. The Introduction of new layer limits new decals etc and the handsome sleek design of the 801/2 I couldn’t hold back no longer. The Class 91 or the development name of 225 Electra is to me a great looking loco. The livery design seen in the 80s and 90s complements the unit perfectly. So I wanted as always to see if I could re work the existing design into a more modern design. Do this but without moving away from the original design plans. Like a 45 Degree rake and making sure all elements are there but on the class 801/2. Working the front end out with future planning for doors and recesses in mind. The Rake is slight off tho to fit the angle line from right edge of door to lip of roof line and also so the other lines all feed of this key design element,,,plus I was trying to force more space aft of the driver door. This was for logo placement but due to all key points and edges of the original design to fit with the rest of the complete units there was no option for this to be done. There for the logo is moved back to the aft of the front passage door. From a design point of view and why I can see in LNER Azuma livery that 801 wear today then the same issues was clearly a problem for the designer of that livery. You can see where the flow line is raised to allow the angle to meet with the N on the LNER logo. Then to try fit in with the level of the windows line. The space is cramped, a very difficult space to work in. And also very difficult to get the flow lines of the 801 in to the livery design. This is something I love doing and what I faced on this loco and livery. Forcing a design where you may find something unique. So yes ideally I wanted the logo upfront but I felt this would compromise the original lines of the Class 91 and the livery in general. To me it was crime to intrude in that space because that’s all part of the what we love about the original sleek design seen on the Class 91. So as you can and I hope keeps to the original design and features of the class 91 then that love of the original is still there. I found away to find a workable place for the logo if odd where it is. I had no option and that’s what to me designing this I found it the most important part of the whole process. These area alone dictated how the rest of the livery worked. For example a higher proportion of the Ox Blood layer. For the front end to work that line has to be high or just below the bottom edge if the roof line. Also a space of signal white is needed. But then the warning lines was intruding into that level or eye line. I also had to think about the information display panels on the other units. Plus if I left it lower or just under these PIDP’s then I’d have a space to fill but that would be adding to a design which I wasn’t prepared to do. It would totally undermine the look again of the original design. Plus I’ve had just worked on the Retro 101 project where a lot of lines was added but that was due to core elements of the original 101 DMU. Yet I did consider adding the effect of what’s on the livery of today around the window edges but again I felt it was too much going on in the light. So this would not apply here nor be fitting as this is not the InterCity livery. This uses new colours that have been recently applied to 901 27 “Nevill Hill”. Signal Black. Signal Yellow. Signal White. Ox Blood. Or Black Red RAL 3007. I found that there wasn’t much in it. Especially when testing in light. Flame Red. Telegray 4. Rolling Stock. Signal Black. Signal White. Ox Blood or Black Red. Anthracite Grey. Telegrey 4. Flame Red. As these are the colours used on the new updated version then it also would fit for the Class 801/2. This meets the original project outlines to try develop a workable livery. I’ve been researching cost to do a fleet like the class 91 and the class 801 and it’s not cheap. Without classes mentioned here but you could be looking a full fleet like LNER around 760k. And this was prices for a few years back I believe so don’t quote me on that. So cost is starting to be something I consider when doing these projects. I’d love to make it look all fancy like some A4 Heritage liveries yet these would just be one of if made in the real world. It’s not feasible to do something like that across a large fleet. The cost would be too high. Also names. Setting and levelling the Nevill Hill name. Now I believe the class 91’s was fitted with some great names and was quite popular amongst enthusiasts. Sadly tho they was removed over time. So to keep to some degree of relevance I worked the name Nevill Hill and Edinburgh Castle in. As this was a previous name of 901 27. I thought I’d would appeal to enthusiasts that miss those names. I also thhought it would be interesting to bring back on to a newer fleet. I haven’t used a full metal plate as this is too heavy for the front and again would destroy the design we so love. So by saving cost and weight a simple layers are used. It’s light on the front and doesn’t impede on the key design. Doors. Again working off key elements of the MK3 and to try meet new safety requirements a broad use of grey is used. In this photo I’m just setting the centre line so all edges are evenly distributed on both sides of the door as the grey opens up to allow the seating panel to be applied later. It also helps in breaking up the large use of Oxblood. So I was hoping to give a few more details about what I faced and why 801 227 is the way it is. Plus I wanted to make up for the lack of early information about this project. But unfortunately due to recent changes in my schedule of work then not much time will be available for this project until next year. Again as mentioned more information when I have it will be available. But I am working on these sets from today due to time constraints. I will return soon to continue this project but for now it’s on hold. I thank all those that have supported this project in it early stages and I am hoping to continue with your valuable support near in the future. Thank you all so much. Have a great weekend and up coming Holiday season folks. I hope I get my Thomas the Tank Engine train set I asked for when I was 7. Still don’t get it. So mummy if your reading this where is it???. Have fun folks. Bye✌. Lee (TSLP).
Well Hello Folks. Now it’s been awhile since posting on here but being one to never forget or leave something unfinished I’m back to see if we can work on the original East Coast Legends Project but with a twist a HST Twist. Allow me to briefly explain away from the core ECL Project. A few weeks back I started to work on a fictional Class 43 Livery. Seen below is that livery,,,don’t worry about the number. I was only aware later on the significance of that unit number. Now this livery wasn’t really have meant to the have seen the light of day until a community member paid interest. This is where I’ve got myself involved and interested in the Class 252/253 or more commonly known as Class 43 HST. I don’t want to say to much about how one thing led to another but I’ve found myself getting into them more and more. The Importance of this HST that are sadly now a thing of the past. Plus my lost childhood of not having a train set make me want to have something that is there on its own,,say 43 257 EX VTEC, LNER then we have 43 257 on its own. Here So it got me thinking why not make Power Car independent say in VTEC, LNER livery and even now with later companies in the freight sector away from avoiding issues with unit numbers etc. Can be used on freight scenarios not passenger services. A change something different,,while we wait. While we wait,,,and could be a long wait so why not in the mean time make them available independently or individually so CC users can make and mix what they like. IC at one end a VTEC the other. Plus this Class 43 is most certainly a ICON so is the 225 (Hello DTG!). Why not add it to the ECL Project. I feel it’s a great opportunity to share interest in the HST as I am new to the whole scene when it comes to trains,,,what I know and do is based on hours of research. I have to start from scratch,,but I know there are many out there that may want to share their thoughts or even request a certain livery on a PC. As the child in me see these as models in a simulator. Why not make them be that,,,on it own not in a complete set and rake. For I will be making very highly detailed rolling stock too now I know every small letter and detail etc. This will take time but then they too will be individually released so then if you want to mix and match one can do to the hearts content. I will hopefully be working with someone to achieve this and with the task in hand anyone is more than welcome to get involved with rolling stock even Power Cars etc so we can get a standard paint code across say 2 or 3 members working together. Could also give a few people work as I’ve had a few say they don’t know what to make. Well looking at my small plans I could be here for a year with work,,,I’ve always got something to do. Also on a side note it got me thinking about livery’s and with DLCs we have now I’d say I’ve got to much and why would I want more. Have we forgotten about being great full,,appreciate the now and what we have. I for sure don’t find myself wanting more,,,I can’t take a pee for amount of work now. (Sorry little rant over). But did get me thinking. Anyway I’m posting this to hopefully bring back the ECL Project and put the feelers out for opening the door to new ideas with the HST ideas. As always it would be great to hear from you all and if you think this would be a good idea in-the short term to get around the duplication of units. This way could be better as like I say once done they would be that individual units just like say using the Flying Scotsman. You can even play shunt with them in the yards. I’d also love to see a mixed rake and sets in a scenario something I’m not an expert on nor have the time so please if someone can make them please make one for me. I’d be so appreciative. So yep just a brief outline of what I’d like to do and together with your knowledge and experience on HST and the East Coast. As always thanks for taking the time to read,,I hope to hear any suggestions or ideas from you. Thanks. Lee (TSLP)
Hello again folks. As always I will have to make this brief but I’d like to continue with this ECL Project by adding the HST now I have my hands on the DLC’s. I will show some work of where I am up to with a livery born from nothing apart from a play around that has now progressed to the stage I am at now with it. Here is 43 257/ 43 318 with fully detailed coaches. But this time instead of waffling on about this and that I thought I’d move into the 21 century and use Twitch. Hopefully you can join me and I will leave a link at the bottom with the details. It will be my first time but I thought what better way to try reach out to others for assistance with work than actually communicating directly while live. I can also reach out to others that don’t use the forums and get there feed back for my channel. Hopefully by doing streams I can introduce a new element to this rather than me going on and on as I tend to do. Yet as I write this I’m getting nervous as hell,,,and with that I shall leave so I can make some preparations Here is the link to my channel where you can find some information if only basic at the moment. https://www.twitch.tv/tslpblackstripe. Again I do hope some of you can join me Enjoy the rest of your evenings. (TSLP).
I wish I had seen this before now as I would have loved to have watched the stream. I actually really like that livery you have made for the HST! Will it be on creators club?
Hello my old friend, hope your okay?. Yes bit of an odd one. Wasn’t meant to be anything much but with support from a fantastic member of the community Matt. I’d doubt it would have processed to this level. So I’m glad you like this livery,,,,as again I feel I was encouraged by other members to get it done. So I’ll pass on these appreciations if that’s okay by you?. Shame you couldn’t have joined us like but if your free I don’t mind doing the odd stream for ya. I did that one last week as a test. See how it went. The unofficial steam did better than the official one lol. Maybe due to times. If you find I could help you with liveries better that way then again I don’t mind doing a quick stream for you. Plus unfortunately as I went to load this up last week I hit a wall and spat my dummy out as per. So is not available at the moment it’s just sat doing nothin. Which again is a shame after the effort and help from other members mentioned. I was meant to load a few up today so I may try for this one tomorrow. I’ll let ya know you if it’s a success. I’ve got a few piled up ready for launch you see. Including a TfW Class 801 I done a week ago or so if your interested. But yet again I’ve had to hang back on releasing as I wanted permissions first. Id like to keep it on QT for it’s launch and so I’ll place a few pictures up on The Works Shed as I need to show a lad there the work done as he has shown some interest in them. And hey I know I also need to catch up so I’ll will do that very soon I’m glad to catch you again mgbgt. Speak soon. Lee.
