The East Coast Main Line (ECML) is a 393-mile long (632 km)[2] electrified railway[1] between London and Edinburgh via Peterborough, Doncaster, York, Darlington, Durham and Newcastle. The line is a key transport artery on the eastern side of Great Britain running broadly parallel to the A1 road. The line was built during the 1840s by three railway companies, the North British Railway, the North Eastern Railway, and the Great Northern Railway. In 1923, the Railway Act of 1921 led to their amalgamation to form the London and North Eastern Railway (LNER) and the line became its primary route. The LNER competed with the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) for long-distance passenger traffic between London and Scotland. The LNER's chief engineer Sir Nigel Gresley designed iconic Pacific steam locomotives, including the Flying Scotsman and Mallard which achieved a world record speed for a steam locomotive, 126 miles per hour (203 km/h) on the Grantham-to-Peterborough section. In 1948, the railways were nationalised and operated by British Railways. In the early 1960s, steam was replaced by Diesel-electric traction, including the Deltics and sections of the line were upgraded so that trains could run at speeds of up to 100 miles per hour (160 km/h). With the demand for higher speed, British Rail introduced InterCity 125 high-speed trains between 1976 and 1981. In 1973, a Class 41 (an HST prototype), achieved a top speed of 143 mph (230 km/h) in a test run. In the 1980s, the line was electrified and InterCity 225 trains were introduced, which have now been largely replaced by Class 800 and Class 801 units. The November 2021 Integrated Rail Plan stated that the linespeed will be upgraded to 140 miles per hour (230 km/h).[3] The line links London, South East England and East Anglia, with Yorkshire, the North East and Scotland and is important to their local economies. It carries key commuter traffic in north London and cross-country, commuter, local passenger services, and freight. There is currently no electrification north of Edinburgh to Aberdeen or Inverness. In 1997, operations were privatised. The primary long distance operator is London North Eastern Railway, but open-access competition on services to Northern England and Scotland is provided by Hull Trains, Grand Central and Lumo. I Know The Route Will Be Too Long For DTG
This routes been suggested so much and acknowledged so little by DTG. I'd buy if it was up to PBO. I'd feel short changed with anything less as a first run at the route
London Peterborough is 76 miles 121 km same length as Sherman Hill with Track 3. BML Owners get to use Class 387/2 Great Northern London Kings Cross to Stevenage for Cambridge/Kings Lynn with Rush Hour Train Pack Class 700 Kings Cross to Peterborough Thameslink Freight Class 66 Excellent Idea since its a TSC route that must be in TSW 2
I'd say it's up there in the top 5 routes wanted by players. I'm sure it'll come eventually, but will it be a decent length, probably not.
I’d just love to see someone acknowledge it’s being looked at. We’re constantly told community is listened to however these this and WCML seem to be the elephants none shall talk of
Completely agree the ecml should be put into tsw2. london kings x to peterborough will be the route I will want in, most lner services stop there and other commuters. it's a bit over 70 miles which is longer than the normal tsw2 route which is around 40-50 miles, but it will encourage dtg to create longer and better routes (it could stretch to over 100 miles at some point!). Along the route you are able to get commuters going around london like thameslink 700s and great northern 387s and 717s (the 387 from bml could be layered onto this route like what driverwoods#1787 said, but with the great northern livery. services that go up most or all of the ecml include lner, cross country, grand central and hull trains. But the main services going up the ecml are by lner and I am sure lner is suggested quite a lot by the community. lner trains could include the class 801 'azuma' and the class 91 (which was recently given a new livery, which looks to be based on the older class 91 intercity livery!). class 700 class 387 (with great northern livery), it also gets to use the ac power mode on this route instead of boring old dc third-rail. class 717 class 801 'azuma' class 91 with new livery
They must go the extra mile to at least reach Peterborough. Era wise, well BR Classic for me with Deltic's, 47's and Paxman engine HST's. However any epoch would do so long as it can be layered on to and an "Eastern Legends" pack follows in due course. Maybe DTG will surprise us and this will be the centrepiece UK route for TSW3.
Train sim world 3? I have seen a lot of threads about it being possibly leaked, but is it really coming out
It would be amazing to see if, the WCML guys have a bit to play on, would love to see us exiting kgx north on a decent timetable like brighton
Well we don't know for certain as nothing official has yet been confirmed. However there has been no outright statement of denial from DTG either and, even with their "pause" to address core issues, apart from the updated IOW by Rivet, it has gone disturbingly quiet on the DLC release front post SoS.
Hopefully it’s modern because we have had 5 old era routes and it would be the first route with ohle thats long
it was broadly confirmed by JD, however no information regarding time frame. So basically it’s just as it was when everyone suspected it would come eventually
Dtg need to break this route length barrier. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the tiles unloaded after you have passed them?
It’s the accountants looking at the costs and saying at £25 with the details the customer expects ….NO
Who says the dlc has got to be £25. Why not put in the time and make a 140 mile route costing £50. If the kids these days are happy to spend £20 of their parents money on a bit of bling and an outfit on roblox I'm sure they'll be happy to spend £50 on a nice train driving experience?
DTG Presumably someone's looked at this and seen that there may be a huge drop off of people that would buy it at that price point Anything that starts with this wording is likely to be less than flattering to you or them (and I was right)
I somehow doubt that... Almost everyone I have conversed with on here and seen on discord has been over thirty
Of course not, but it's indicative of who is playing and participating, even if it doesn't cover everyone. We know how many people are buying and downloading the game (extrapolating from Sam's insistence that sales are 33% per platform) so you can do the maths
And the should be modern day Northern Routes with modern upto date trains, tho I like the British rail era there are no modern routes for Northern on TSW2 yet, there are some good trains on the game but not enough variety like there could be loads of add on trains for starters on existing routes like class 800's on the GWR or Northern 153's 156's 158's and 'pacers' in modern Northern livery for the 'Cornwall Local' or the Manchester line, or the Liverpool linewith the '390 Pendelino' with modern upgrades to the routes?
The amount of suggestions about this route and its constantly ignored by DTG. Everytime they mention about listening to community suggestions, yet release LOVE that's had very little suggestion
Plus other than the EMU's like 377, 465 and the train on the hs1 line from ST. Pancras, there arn't any electric trains for the British Trains, like no electric loco's like 85's, 86's, 87's, 90's 91's 92's or something like the 'Woodhead loco'?
These are called Class 77 & 76. Spoiler: Class 77 Alternate Paint It basically becomes a Dutch NS1500 suits the Hollandstrecke Duisburh-Utrecht Pre 2016 where Class 77 NS1500 sits at Emmerich Am Rhein waiting for a German Railtour train. Has a DB BR103 110 DR DDR Baureihe 242 211 119 118 repainted DR BR132 in front then NS1500 Class 77 runs that to Utrecht CS from Emmerich Am Rhein. Another route is Monchengladbach Eindhoven via Venlo where NS1500 waits for DB BR150 140 Freight present day 185.2 185.5 185.6 then go at the Freight Yard. Passenger same as Emmerich Am Rhein. Here's what it looks like
This goes back to the old problem of route length... All those trains on mainline use would be doing hundreds of miles, and the sim is only up to about 50 miles route length as it stands
