Route East Coast Mainline North: Edinburgh To Newcastle

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  1. bdlhouston#8691

    bdlhouston#8691 Well-Known Member

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    Introduction:
    Experience stunning British coastal scenery in this all new route for train sim world 4, which will quickly turn into the suburbs of Newcastle, Edinburgh and more!

    The route:
    The route runs for 124 miles along the east coast of scotland, and England, as well as the short 8 mile branch to north berwick. With 125mph running speeds along the majority of the route.

    This would become the longest British route in the game, which beats east coast mainline: Doncaster to Peterborough by around 45 miles.

    (A map of the route)
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    Service examples:

    1S32 22:42 London kings cross to Edinburgh

    Calls at: Morpeth, Alnmouth, Berwick-upon-tweed, Edinburgh.
    Time taken: 1h38m
    TOC: LNER
    Operated by: Class 801, Class 800.

    2Y04 13:41 Edinburgh to North berwick
    Calls at: Musselburgh, Wallyford, Prestonpans, Longniddry, Drem, North berwick.
    Time taken: 33m
    TOC: scotrail
    Operated by: Class 380, Class 385. (3/6 car formations)

    1W11 12:50 London kings cross to Aberdeen.
    Calls at: Berwick-upon tweed, Edinburgh.
    Time taken: 1h33m
    TOC: LNER
    Operated by: Class 800

    1Z54 08:08 Edinburgh to Derby
    Calls at: Berwick-upon-tweed, Alnmouth, Newcastle.
    Time taken: 1h30m
    TOC: crosscountry
    Operated by: Class 220, Class 221 (DLC ONLY)

    1E82 08:56 Edinburgh to London kings cross

    Calls at: Morpeth, Newcastle.
    Time taken: 1h25m
    TOC: LUMO
    Operated by: Class 803 (DLC ONLY)

    Stations:

    Edinburgh waverley

    Already existing on 2 routes, Edinburgh needs little introduction. Although this route runs sout of the east side of the station. Utilising separate platforms from fife circle and E&G.
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    Craigentinny TMD
    This is a depot just outside of Edinburgh waverley station, where LNER, crosscountry, LUMO, transpennine express, and scotrail will store some of their trains. Including class 385s, voyagers, azumas and more.
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    Musselburgh

    Wallyford

    Prestonpans

    Longniddry

    Drem

    North berwick

    This station is a single platform station on the north berwick branch line, it is operated by scotrail, and serves the town of the same name, seeing services from Edinburgh, and for a short while, services from ayr.

    Dunbar
    This is another scotrail terminus on the east coast mainline, although it is actually Operated by transpennine express.

    Reston

    Berwick upon tweed

    Our first station upon crossing the border, most LNER services will call here, as well as crosscountry, transpennine express will also call here.
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    Chathill

    Alnmouth

    Acklington

    Widdrington

    Pegswood

    Morpeth


    Cramlington

    Newcastle

    Newcastle is one of the larger terminus stations on the ECML, seeing services by a large variety of companies, and is where our route will terminate.
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    (Rolling stock information on next slide)
     
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  2. bdlhouston#8691

    bdlhouston#8691 Well-Known Member

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    Rolling stock and DLC:

    Included as base:

    Class 801 "azuma"

    The class 801 was added with the release of ECML: Doncaster to Peterborough. And would operate the majority of services on the route.
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    Class 800 "Azuma"

    Similar to the class 801, the class 800 has the ability to operate on diesel lines, due to its bi-mode capabilities. The 800 would substitute for the class 801 sometimes, and operate services that continue on to Aberdeen and Inverness.
    Layers: ECML: Doncaster to Peterborough, Fife circle, Edinburgh glasgow (AI only)
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    Layers:

    Class 380 "Desiro"

    The upcoming class 380, mostly the 3 car variant would operate on Dunbar and North berwick services.

    Class 385
    The class 385 would have the same services as the class 380, although is more common on the route, It would also appear as AI, and operate ECS moves to and from Edinburgh and Craigentinny TMD.

    Class 170 "Turbostar"
    The class 170 would appear as AI on services to tweedbank, as well as its existing services on the west side of Edinburgh.

    Class 66
    The class 66 would run freight duties along the route.

    Flying scotsman
    The scotsman would layer to operate a handful of railtours.

    Loco add ons and DLCs:

    Class 803

    The lumo class 803 would operate mostly non or limited stop services to and from Newcastle to edinburgh.
    Layers: ECML: doncaster to Peterborough, Edinburgh glasgow, Fife circle (AI)
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    Class 220/221 "Voyager"
    The class 220 and 221s are 4 or 5 car diesel multiple units capable of 125mph. The 221s are fitted with tilting capabilities, although crosscountry have disabled these due to maintenance costs. The voyagers would operate hourly services along the route, with similar calling points as LNER.
    Layers: Fife circle, Birmingham cross city, MML, Glossop, Edinburgh glasgow, Cathcart circle.
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    Scenarios:

    Class 800 introduction
    Learn the basics of operating this class 800 bi-mode multiple unit.

    Class 803 introduction
    Learn the basics of operating this Class 803 electric multiple unit.

    Class 220/221 introduction
    Learn the basics of operating this class 220/221 diesel multiple unit.

    Border hop
    Drive this early morning service from Edinburgh to newcastle, calling at berwick-upon-tweed and newcastle.
    Difficulty: 1
    Class 801

    Diesel switch
    Due to a power failure at Morpeth, you will have to drive this service on diesel until you reach berwick. However you will be able to switch to overhead for the remainder of your journey to Edinburgh.
    Difficulty: 3
    Class 800

    Back and forth
    Bring this class 800 into service from Craigentinny TMD to Edinburgh, then bring an 801 back to the depot.
    Difficulty: 1
    Class 800, class 801

    Scot-coasting

    It is a rainy evening, and you are tasked to drive this class 385 into Edinburgh from north berwick. Then drive a class 380 out to Dunbar.
    Difficulty: 2
    Class 380, class 385.

    Bi-hind schedule

    This service had been heavily delayed at Darlington earlier due to an incident, as a result you are 45 minutes behind schedule. Drive this class 800 non-stop from Newcastle to Edinburgh.

    Diesel crossing
    Drive this class 220/221 combo between Newcastle and Edinburgh on a rainy afternoon. Then drive the rear set back to the depot while the front set continues to Aberdeen.

    New blue
    Drive this class 803, Operated by a brand new company from Edinburgh to newcastle, calling at Morpeth only.

    Overall:
    While this would be one of the most ambitious routes for train sim world, the amount of layering opportunities and sheer length of the route could make it one of the best selling routes yet.
     
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  3. Benjamin Lynam

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    I love this section of the ECML. Very scenic, detailed and so much potential for it.
     
  4. TrackingTrains

    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    There is also East Linton station, and at the point that the 801 is being adapted maybe they could make a TPE 802 too.
     
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  5. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, please.
     
  6. AtherianKing

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    Great section, would be brilliant to see it in TSW

    however, I’m not sure TSW is up for such a section, its long & scenic, not a good match for how long routes have managed to push through in TSW so far. At best it would probably have to be a core route.

    currently I would say either the voyager or Lumo would be best for this routes base train along with the 801 or perhaps a different 800 series LNER.
     
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  7. mrrando19

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    I literally just suggested this like weeks ago lol. but i guess this suggestion only furthers my reasoning on why this route should be added! Great to see this section of the ecml getting more exposure!
     
  8. amogus#1263

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    we can enjoy whole ecml on TSC - but in different DLC
    Why not london kx - Edb
     
  9. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    At around 400 miles no chance.
     
  10. amogus#1263

    amogus#1263 Member

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    just kidding my friend
    most chances would be kX - cambridge with thamaslink
     
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  11. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    London to Peterborough will likely be that part of the ECML, though could very well be a long time before it comes up.
     
  12. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Would love this to be implanted!
     
  13. OldVern

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    As when suggested previously, Newcastle to Edinburgh a bit on the long side. More likely to be Newcastle to Berwick or Berwick to Edinburgh.

    And my personal view is that this should be set in a different era to Peterborough to Doncaster, maybe pre 1991 with Valenta HST's and the last of the Deltic fleet. (Along with 47's, 45's etc).
     
  14. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You're trying to bring back a TSC route into the Game. This one should be made by Just Trains which made this for TSC now TSW 4/5 if they can. Speaking of class 800 it might have a sluggish acceleration on Diesel power yet quick on AC 25kv 50hz
     
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  15. TSW Nathan

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    Aside from the picture that looks like I tried to read it without my glasses. ;) XD
    Brilliant suggestion! I'd love this! Just note there are some LNER services non-stop to Newcastle as well. (0900 EDB-LGX)
    Apart from that yea brilliant! I'd love to see this in the game! Very scenic section as well! 20240408_083310.jpg 20240408_085959.jpg 20240408_093705.jpg 20240408_093949.jpg 1000000678.jpg
     
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