Train Sim World 3 East Coast Mainline Peterborough To York

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  1. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    From the wonderful town of peterborough up north to york, my suggestion for today will be the East Coast Mainline (Peterborough - York) set in a post covid timeline, this would be a good suggestion for the game. The East Coast Main Line is a major railway route in the United Kingdom that connects London to Edinburgh via Peterborough, York, Newcastle, and other cities. It is one of the busiest and fastest rail routes in the UK, with trains reaching speeds of up to 125mph, sitting at around 393 miles on the core mainline (excluding the scottish east coast, trains to glasgow, leeds, lincoln and the highland chieftain). The peterborough to york line sits at a whopping 112 miles, with about 6 stations inbetween including:

    Peterborough
    Peterborough Train Station is a major railway station in the city of Peterborough, located in the east of England. It is a busy interchange station, with connections to several major railway lines, including the East Coast Main Line, the Midlands Main Line, and the Peterborough to Ely Line. The station has six platforms and is served by several different train companies, including LNER, CrossCountry, Great Northern, and Thameslink. There are frequent services to a range of destinations, including London, Edinburgh, Cambridge, Birmingham, and Norwich.

    Grantham
    Grantham Station is a railway station located in the town of Grantham, in Lincolnshire, England. It is situated on the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the busiest railway routes in the UK, connecting London to Edinburgh via several major cities including Peterborough and York.

    Newark Northgate
    Newark North Gate is a railway station located in the town of Newark-on-Trent, in Nottinghamshire, England. It is situated on the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the busiest railway routes in the UK, connecting London to Edinburgh via several major cities including Peterborough and York.

    Retford
    Retford Train Station is a railway station located in the town of Retford, in Nottinghamshire, England. It is situated on the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the busiest railway routes in the UK, connecting London to Edinburgh via several major cities including Peterborough and York.

    Doncaster
    Doncaster Station is a major railway station located in the town of Doncaster, in South Yorkshire, England. It is situated on the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the busiest railway routes in the UK, connecting London to Edinburgh via several major cities including Peterborough and York. Doncaster Station is served by several different train companies, including LNER, TransPennine Express, and Northern. These companies provide services to a range of different destinations, including London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Leeds, and Sheffield.

    York
    York Station is a major railway station located in the city of York, in North Yorkshire, England. It is situated on the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the busiest railway routes in the UK, connecting London to Edinburgh via several major cities including Peterborough and Newcastle. York Station is served by several different train companies, including LNER, CrossCountry, and TransPennine Express. These companies provide services to a range of different destinations, including London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds.

    Special things about the route
    1. The Selby Diversion:
    The Selby Diversion was built in the late 1970s and early 1980s to bypass the historic Selby Swing Bridge, which was a bottleneck on the East Coast Main Line. The diversion route runs from Temple Hirst Junction, south of York, to Colton Junction, near Leeds. The line is approximately 15 miles (24 km) long and was Britain’s first example of a high speed railway, with the track and OHLE being designated for 275km/h (170mph)
    Doncaster TMD
    Doncaster TMD (Train Maintenance Depot) is a railway depot located in Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England. It is one of the largest and busiest train maintenance facilities in the UK and is operated by the rail freight and logistics company, DB Cargo UK. The depot covers an area of over 100 acres and has 16 maintenance sheds, which are used for servicing, repairing and maintaining locomotives, wagons, and other railway equipment. It also has a dedicated wheel lathe, a sanding facility, and a heavy lifting crane. The depot employs over 500 people, including engineers, technicians, and support staff. Doncaster TMD has a long history dating back to the 19th century when it was used for locomotive manufacturing and repair. Today, it primarily serves as a maintenance depot for DB Cargo UK's fleet of diesel and electric locomotives, which are used for freight operations across the country. The depot also provides maintenance services for other railway companies and leasing firms. In addition to its maintenance operations, Doncaster TMD is also involved in the development and testing of new railway technologies, such as digital signalling and train automation. The depot has a dedicated testing facility, which is used to trial and evaluate new equipment and systems before they are implemented on the mainline.

    Double/ Flashing Greens Inbetween Peterborough and Grantham:
    This was the first instance of Revenue Earning High Speed Rail in the UK, where in BR days, flashing green signals were given to HSTs and Intercity 225s to run up to 140mph, due to OHLE issues it was eventually reduced to 125, but seeing the flashing greens/ double greens on TSW3 would be a nice little add on to the route for accuracy.

    Trains to be used on this route
    Class 158 (Layers)
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    This train can be used on sections of the route in between peterborough and Grantham. But the 158 in itself is a diesel multiple unit (DMU) train used for passenger services in the UK. It was introduced in the late 1980s by British Rail and is still in use today with various train operators. The Class 158 is a two-car DMU, with a maximum speed of 90 mph (145 km/h). It is powered by two Cummins 6-cylinder diesel engines, which drive the train's hydraulic transmission system.

    Class 91 “Electras” + MK4 coaches and DVT
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    The Class 91 is a type of electric locomotive used in the UK for high-speed passenger trains on the East Coast Main Line. The locomotives were built by British Rail Engineering Limited (BREL) between 1988 and 1991 and are currently operated by the train operating company LNER. The Class 91 locomotive is a 6-axle electric locomotive, designed for high-speed operation with a top speed of 140 mph (225 km/h). It is fitted with a pantograph, which collects electricity from overhead lines, and uses AC traction motors to power the train. Each locomotive has a power output of 4,830 kW (6,479 hp). The Class 91 locomotives are primarily used to haul the Mark 4 carriage trains, which are used for long-distance intercity services between London King's Cross and cities in the north of England and Scotland. These services include the prestigious Flying Scotsman, East Coast Express, and Highland Chieftain trains. In addition to their high-speed capabilities, the Class 91 locomotives are known for their reliability and low noise levels, making them a popular choice for long-distance passenger services. They have undergone various upgrades and refurbishments over the years, including the installation of new traction control systems and the fitting of regenerative braking equipment. The Mk4 coaches and DVT (Driving Van Trailer) are types of passenger carriages used on long-distance intercity trains in the UK. They were introduced in the mid-1980s and are currently operated by the train operating company LNER. The Mk4 coaches are air-conditioned carriages that are designed for high-speed operation with a top speed of 140 mph (225 km/h). They are used in conjunction with the Class 91 locomotives to form the intercity trains that run on the East Coast Main Line. The coaches are available in a variety of configurations, including standard class, first class, and buffet cars. The DVT is a specially designed carriage that is located at one end of the train and houses the driver's cab. It is used in conjunction with the Class 91 locomotives to provide a driving position at both ends of the train, which eliminates the need for the locomotive to be turned around at the end of each journey. The DVT is also equipped with passenger seating, providing additional capacity for the train.
    Class 800/801
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    The Class 800 (801s being purely EMU) Azuma is a type of electric-diesel hybrid train that operates on the East Coast Main Line in the UK. It is part of the Azuma family of trains built by Hitachi Rail Europe and is operated by the train operating company LNER. The Class 800 Azuma is capable of running at speeds of up to 140 mph (225 km/h) and is used primarily for long-distance intercity services between London King's Cross and cities in the north of England and Scotland. It is a bi-mode train, which means it can operate using both electric and diesel power. The Class 800 Azuma is equipped with regenerative braking, which enables it to recover energy when braking and use this energy to power other systems on the train. It also features an aerodynamic design, which helps to reduce wind resistance and improve fuel efficiency.

    Class 802/803
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    DLC
    Leeds Lines
    The Doncaster-Leeds line is a railway line in the UK that runs between Doncaster in South Yorkshire and Leeds in West Yorkshire. It is part of the East Coast Main Line, which is one of the UK's busiest and most important railway routes. The Doncaster-Leeds line covers a distance of around 28 miles (45 km) and is used by both passenger and freight trains. The line passes through a number of towns and villages, including Wakefield, Pontefract and Castleford.


    DLC 2:
    Contemporary British Rail.
    Drive on this section of the ECML in the sectorisation era. Drive the Intercity 125, 225s, Class 90s and 89s down the East Coast, in this action packed loco/scenario bundle.

    DLC 3
    Leeds - York Lines

    The Leeds to York line is a railway line in the UK that runs between Leeds in West Yorkshire and York in North Yorkshire. It is an important part of the UK's rail network, providing fast and frequent connections between two of the largest cities in the north of England. The line covers a distance of around 20 miles (32 km) and is used by both passenger and freight trains. The line passes through a number of towns and villages, including Garforth, Micklefield, Church Fenton, and Ulleskelf.
     
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  2. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    As I said it is a brilliant suggestion and has good potential as a TSW intercity route. Also as I said, if having it modern, it would probably be best to have it set in 2019 so we can have the HSTs (from GWE though with appropriate LNER modifications) and 801s (new) included with the route and then the 225s as DLC later. I feel like a broken record now but also as I said earlier I would much prefer to have it set in the 70s/80s with HSTs (valenta engined) and Deltics with our other BR blue locos like I remember it when I had a bit more of a spring in my step!!
     
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  3. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    a deltic route would be york - newcastle (the racetrack) i feel like it fits the deltics even more
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Now you say it that does sound good as we would also be able to give the 45s a good run with their cross country services on that section too!
     
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    yep deltics, 45s and HSTs would be a good thing to do
     
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  6. Lil jj

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    perfect suggestion
    A bit picky but it's 25 miles
     
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  7. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    thank you for the correction, i’ll try to get it redone properly, and yes i would love to see an intercity route in game
     
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  8. Nick Y

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    Colton Junction is closer to York than Leeds and Templehirst Jctn is south west of Selby.
    Also, the diversion wasn't built to avoid the swing bridge or bottleneck at Selby, it was built because a new coal seam was discovered around Selby and there was evidence that the area would be susceptible to subsidence and unsuitable for high speed trains so it was decided to build a diversionary route to avoid that. The diversion route was built and paid for by the National Coal Board.
     
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    thank you for the clarification
     
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    Good idea. Would buy this If it was a real dlc. Would love to visit York one day.
     
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    Oh wow, that's a cool looking livery. The Class 91 was one of my favourite trains to drive in TSC, in the lovely BR Intercity Swallow livery. Most modern liveries aren't to my liking, but I love this one you show here. Would probably buy the route just for this train alone. :cool:
     
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  12. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    yep, they are the new LNER Swallow liveries, very very nice trains and one of the best modern liveries based off the original intercity livery
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    yep, i would love to see a well done york station with different movements and etc
     
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  14. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    why not make it as ecml Peterborough to york/Leeds that way you have High Speed running to York and commuter operations to Leeds from Doncaster via Wakefield. Excellent idea and for DLC locomotive Class 89
     
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  15. pessitheghost

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    great idea, and the york to leeds line can be a dlc, that’s much better
     
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