Train Sim World 3 Ecml Newcastle - Edinburgh Waverley

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    The East Coast Main Line (ECML) is a railway route in the United Kingdom that runs from London to Edinburgh, with several branches and connections to other cities along the way. The term "ECML North" refers to the section of the line that runs from Newcastle to Edinburgh, which is also sometimes called the "East Coast Main Line North Route." This section of the line passes through several major cities and towns, including Berwick-upon-Tweed, Alnmouth, Morpeth and Newcastle-upon-Tyne . It is an important transportation route for both passengers and freight, with many trains running daily between London and Edinburgh, as well as local services connecting the various towns and cities along the route. Overall, the East Coast Main Line North is a vital part of the UK's transportation infrastructure, providing an important link between the capital and the major cities of the North East and Scotland.
    Spanning 125 miles, there are about 17 stations which include:
    Newcastle Central
    Newcastle Central Station is a major railway station located in the city center of Newcastle upon Tyne, in the northeast of England. It is the main station serving the city and the wider North East region, and is operated by Network Rail. The station has 12 platforms, and serves a variety of local, regional, and national destinations. Local services include the Tyne and Wear Metro, which provides rapid transit services to destinations across the North East, including Sunderland, Gateshead, and Newcastle Airport. Regional services include trains to destinations such as Durham, Darlington, and York, while national services connect Newcastle to major cities across the UK, including London, Edinburgh, and Birmingham. Newcastle Central Station was first opened in 1850, and has since undergone several major renovations and upgrades. The station building is an impressive Victorian structure, with a grand portico entrance and a distinctive curved roof. In recent years, the station has been modernized and expanded, with improvements including new retail and dining options, improved accessibility, and a new entrance and ticket hall. Overall, Newcastle Central Station is a key transport hub for the North East, providing convenient and efficient connections to destinations both locally and further afield.

    Manors:
    Manors railway station is a railway station located in the Manors area of Newcastle upon Tyne, England. The station is managed by Northern Trains and is situated on the East Coast Main Line, providing regular services to destinations such as Newcastle Central Station, Edinburgh, York, London King's Cross, and many other locations throughout the UK. The station was first opened in 1987, and it is located on the site of a former station of the same name, which was closed in 1978.

    Cramlington
    Cramlington railway station is a railway station located in the town of Cramlington, Northumberland, England. The station is managed by Northern Trains and is situated on the East Coast Main Line, providing regular services to destinations such as Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh, and London King's Cross, among others. The station was first opened in 1847 as part of the York, Newcastle and Berwick Railway. It underwent major refurbishment in the early 21st century, with improvements made to the station building, platforms, and car park. The station has two platforms, both of which are accessible via a footbridge.

    Morpeth Station
    Morpeth railway station is a railway station located in the town of Morpeth, Northumberland, England. The station is managed by Northern Trains and is situated on the East Coast Main Line, providing regular services to destinations such as Newcastle, Edinburgh, York, and London King's Cross, among others. The station was first opened in 1847 as part of the York, Newcastle and Berwick Railway. It has since undergone several upgrades and renovations, including the addition of a new footbridge, lifts, and improved passenger facilities. The station has two platforms, both of which are accessible via the footbridge or lifts.

    Pegswood
    Pegswood Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Pegswood, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by Northern Trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Morpeth, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.

    Widdrington
    Widdrington Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Widdrington, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by Northern Trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Morpeth, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.

    Acklington
    Acklington Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Acklington, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by Northern Trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Morpeth, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.

    Alnmouth
    Alnmouth Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Alnmouth, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by Northern Trains and London North Eastern Railway (LNER). The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Morpeth, Newcastle, Edinburgh, London, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.
     
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    Chathill
    Chathill Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Chathill, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by Northern Trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Morpeth, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.

    Berwick Upon Tweed
    Berwick-upon-Tweed Train Station is a railway station located in the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Newcastle and Edinburgh, and is served by London North Eastern Railway (LNER) and CrossCountry trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Newcastle, Edinburgh, London, Aberdeen, Glasgow, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and cities throughout Northumberland and the North East of England.

    Reston
    Reston Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Reston, Scottish Borders, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by CrossCountry and ScotRail trains. The station has one platform and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout the Scottish Borders.


    Drem
    Drem Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Drem, East Lothian, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by ScotRail trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, North Berwick, Dunbar, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout East Lothian and the wider Edinburgh area.

    Longniddry
    Longniddry Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Longniddry, East Lothian, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by ScotRail trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, North Berwick, Dunbar, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout East Lothian and the wider Edinburgh area.

    Prestonpans
    Prestonpans Train Station is a railway station located in the town of Prestonpans, East Lothian, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by ScotRail trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, North Berwick, Dunbar, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout East Lothian and the wider Edinburgh area.

    Wallyford
    Wallyford Train Station is a railway station located in the village of Wallyford, East Lothian, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by ScotRail trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, North Berwick, Dunbar, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout East Lothian

    Musselburgh
    Musselburgh Train Station is a railway station located in the town of Musselburgh, East Lothian, Scotland. It is on the East Coast Main Line between Edinburgh and Berwick-upon-Tweed, and is served by ScotRail trains. The station has two platforms and a ticket office that is open part-time. The station provides regular train services to destinations such as Edinburgh, North Berwick, Dunbar, and beyond. There are also regular connections to other towns and villages throughout East Lothian and the wider Edinburgh area.

    Edinburgh Waverley
    Edinburgh Waverley is the main railway station in the city of Edinburgh, Scotland. It is located in the heart of the city centre and is one of the busiest railway stations in the country, serving as a major transportation hub for both local and long-distance trains. The station is named after the Waverley novels by Sir Walter Scott and was first opened in 1854. It has since been expanded and renovated multiple times to accommodate the growing number of passengers using the station. Edinburgh Waverley serves a wide range of destinations across Scotland and the rest of the UK, including Glasgow, Aberdeen, Inverness, London, Manchester, and Birmingham. The station is served by multiple train companies, including ScotRail, LNER, TransPennine Express, and CrossCountry.
     
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    Wanna hear a fun fact about Berwick? During the 1800's it changed country so frequently in peace documents you had to say "England, Scotland, Wales and Berwick upon tweed" This led to them TECHNICALLY being at war with russia untill 1935 where they singed a peace treaty. Yeah thats litterally all I know about Berwick. Jokes aside this would be an amazing route if done well.
     
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    100% yes for me, personally think the bit along the Berwick coast is the most scenic part of the line. Newcastle is often a common crew change point to increase realism.

    I would also add the branch line to North Berwick to liven it up a bit.

    As well as making Waverley much busier later wise.
     
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    The era should be set in 2021
    Trains to be used include:
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    The Class 800 is a bimode multiple unit used on Intercity services on the East Coast between London King’s X and Edinburgh Waverley. It has a max speed of 140mph but is limited to 125mph due to signalling

    Class 220/221 (DLC)
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    The Class 220/221 is a Diesel multiple unit used on Intercity Cross Country Services and was built in 2004 by bombadier transportation. It should be added as a future DLC due to difficulties in getting the License
    Class 803
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    A relative of the aforementioned class 800 this is a purely EMU locomotive used by FirstGroup on their open access operator Lumo
    Class 385 (Layer)
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    Class 802
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    A BMU similar to the 800 but with a uprated performance on diesel
     
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    Intercity 225
    An electric High Speed locomotive used on the east coast for services between london and edinburgh
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    Scenarios

    LNER Flying Scotsman:
    Drive the 05:40 LNER AZUMA service to Newcastle Non Stop
    Lumo Inaugural Ride
    Drive a new Lumo train from Newcastle to Edinburgh Calling at Morpeth
    Electra Express
    Drive an Intercity 225 LNER Swallow from Newcastle to edinburgh calling at morpeth, berwick and Edinburgh
    Trans Pennine
    Drive the 802 TPE newcastle to edinburgh calling at Morpeth, Alnmouth, Berwick Upon Tweed, Reston and Edinburgh
     
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    Yep, would love to see JT do this route as their first TSW route
     
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    A fun bit of Trivia
     
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    Suggestion is too long for a TSW route. Need to think of a 50 or 60 mile section which is going to be Newcastle to Berwick or Berwick to Edinburgh.

    As regards era, any section of the ECML absolutely needs a Deltic on it.
     
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    92 miles isn’t too long, and scenery wise there’s not too much performance intrusive areas and the stations are relatively easy to model apart from probably newcastle and the berwick area
     
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    Isnt the whole thing 125 miles???
     
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    Still too long and as the post above states and I have just confirmed from the Ian Allan Gradient profile book the rail distance is 125 miles. Ergo, not coming to a TSW route anytime soon.
     
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    i used a rail website and it said 92 miles
     
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    Well their information is wrong. The Ian Allan book or a Sectional Appendix will state the correct operational mileage.

    According to Google maps, the most direct road journey is 103 miles and using the A1 which roughly parallels the railway is 117 miles. So 92 miles is complete and utter baloney.
     
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    according to trainline newcastle - edinburgh was apparently 92
     
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    The how the crow flies distance from Newcastle to Edinburgh waverley is 92 miles but the actual distance by rail is 125miles
     
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    Excellent idea and what you are doing here is the British version of the German route Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg Kassel Wilhelmshöhe Würzburg Hbf segment 186km 115 mi 125mi 200km
    If made longest route ranking
    1.) ECML North Newcastle Upon Tyne Edinburgh Waverly 200km
    2.) Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg Kassel Wilhelmshöhe Würzburg Hbf 186km
    3.) 144km SEH
    4.) 140 km Cajon Pass.

    The only way to surpass East Coast main line north is that the developers will merge HRR with HDU 202 km to become Hollandstrecke Duisburg/Bochum Utrecht Centraal.
     
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    Hoping for a Class 55 Deltic. It needs to happen sometime this year.
     
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