[editor Download] - Tsw 2 Unofficial Editor V0.1 + Tutorials

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  1. trainsimcz

    trainsimcz Well-Known Member

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    Here it is, the first release of Unofficial Editor for TSW 2 made by Will and Me. Since i start working on my version i find out that im not the only one who is working on some editor. So i made a team with Will and we are working together on unofficial modding tool for TSW 2. Right now this first version can edit only Data asset files. You may think only... but that only means:

    - editing or creating new formations
    - editing RVD files
    - editing or creating number files (RVN)
    - editing or creating Theme Definition files
    - editing or creating Route Definition files
    - editing Station directory
    - editing journey mode
    - editing paths for Scenario planner
    and many many more :)

    For some of that stuff i recommend FModel app

    This download link will only work if you are signed into github and have joined the epic games organisation: https://github.com/tsweditor/UnrealEngine/releases/tag/4.26-TSW-0.1

    How to join organisation: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/ue4-on-github?sessionInvalidated=true

    For installation - just download 3 rar files from that Github and then extract them. You dont need extra UE4 editor as this pak include completely modded one. Then use UnrealPak.exe to extract original .pak files from TSW (TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor.pak). Extracted stuff move to your TSW editor folder (Content under Content).
    Then extract some DLC and place them into your editor Plugin folder
    so you should have TS2Prototype\Content\ with core stuff like Core, Editor, UI, etc... and TS2Prototype\Plugins\with route or loco.

    Best part is that you can edit already cooked files, dont need to recreate them. Of course you can create your own uncooked files too, even create your own map file and edit RouteDefinition file to add your map there for load... there is no rail system ... yet :)

    So enjoy that first 0.1 version :) it require knowledge how to create mod for TSW (cooking process, creating pak, etc...)

    Little bit after the release we noticed that it was impossible to cook so dont forget to download included patch and extract it to your Editor Engine folder.
     
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    Your work is worthy of admiration, and we look forward to making a better unofficial editor in the future.
     
  3. Alex_m30x#7297

    Alex_m30x#7297 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, someone finally did it
     
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  4. Doomotron

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    DTG never expected anybody to break TSW from the inside... I look forward to seeing what people will do with this.
     
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    coool
     
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    Godlike again \o/
     
  7. CrAzZyKiLLa

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    I love this, I look forward to seeing what everyone does and can achieve with it! Would like to hear what developers would like to make also
     
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  8. Yerolo

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    This is amazing....although this is something I will personally not use as it goes above and beyond my abilities but I look forward to seeing what others in the TSW community do with it.
     
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  9. trainsimcz

    trainsimcz Well-Known Member

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    Ok so since this is first version of our Unofficial Editor i would like to show you something what extra you can make with it as you may think that you can change only Data Asset files So lets do some little tutorial and maybe you will have some more fun with it.
    A lot of you were asking if you can build your route there... so for now not as it require full working rail network system
    but .... and yeah there is a but if you are skilled then you can build your own rail system in Blueprint scripting and then of course you can build your own route... for now you can create map, place objects and leave space for the rails which you can add later
    all cooked actors BP files are full working so if you place them on the map you will have those models there.
    And now some fun part... some of you were asking if you can add new loco to the game with the editor.
    As we dont implement Simulations and Simugraph yet you will have to stick with already made simulation files (RVM files), but you already got RailVehicleDefinition class which you can use to create new RVD files (RVD files are used for Rail Vehicles... Each Rail vehicle got own RVD file so if there is 1 loco with 2 versions it will have 2 RVD files)
    Another file which is important is RVV file which is basically Actor Blueprint file which include models and some other information or even some scripts you dont need to name your BP file like a RVV, you can choose your own name (its just more easy to figure out what is each file for)
    1) so first step is duplicate some already existing RVD file (its faster then creating new one)
    2) create BlueprintClass and choose Actor - name it like you want
    3) open that BP file which you created and on the left side on the top is green button to add stuff into the BP file (Add Component)
    4) there you can choose components which you would like to add into that BP file - Static mesh will be just static model without animations, Skeletal mesh is model with animations as it got own Skeletal (for that you will need to know scripting too as you will need to setup which part suppose to be animated and when - for the screenshots you dont need animations
    5) of course you can add even Light component there, where you place it in that View there it will be like that in the game too (thats for example how is Train Stations made in TSW, they are using couple of small parts build up in that one BP file with extra lights added there too)
    6) Save that BP file and open your duplicated RVD file - there you will find Rail Vehicle View variable -> choose there your new BP file, you can change the Loco name, some other information but for testing you can keep it like that
    7) save your RVD file and then last part require edit some formation where you would like to place that loco... if you enable substitution on that formation then even original loco will substitute there (important is to add your new loco there as the game will dont know about it until its somewhere in the formation)
    - just remember, you are using simulations from other loco, you cant really enter cab until you completely configure it (this is just for basic beginning... a lot of stuff can be accomplished by blueprints, when you press 1 the game will try to enter into the cab - if you add your own camera component into the Cab and set it up then the game will use your camera too)
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    so enjoy that fun :)
    - just want to tell you that this method is not replacing existing model but adding new one there
     
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  10. Mr JMB

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    Fantastic, this feels like a real breakthrough.
     
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  11. LWDAdnane

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    It's things like these that completely transform the gameplay. Euro Truck Simulator 2 was a lot of fun, but got boring quickly, if not for player made mods; vehicle, weather, map mods and so many more, I'm certain the developers would've lost a large majority of the player base. It's even pushed them themselves to do better, and that's been reflected in the quality of DLCs over the years.

    Likewise with TSW2, I feel like this is a step into a new era, where the true potential of the mod community will bring a lease of fresh life to the game. DTG are doing well to a degree, but we've seen how many bugs and issues slip through unnoticed in beta testings, QA etc. I'm very excited to see where this goes, and hope that this doesn't somehow breach any terms and conditions and DTG allow this to flourish.
     
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    Oh my...
     
  13. KMAN

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    Great work I look forward to seeing what the community dos with this!!
     
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    The Editor is a well awaited tool of the community. Its what made Train Simulator 20xx what it is now whit its entire playerbase. So i guess its a bit embaressing for DTG that the first step came from the community.
     
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    So basically you have created magic... nice!
     
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    Wow. This sounds amazing. Even if it's still just in the beginning stages, I'm really looking forward to see what the community will be able to do with this later on.
     
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    I don’t think I have the knowledge to use this editor but I’m certainly looking forward to seeing what people can do with it, as well as seeing and using their creations.

    As mentioned before, the community and mods are what keep games alive and breathing. Keep up the good work and let’s hope we can see an increase of community made mods and content!
     
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    F r e e d o m :) Good for TSW. Good for us.
     
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    Yikes, keeping my grubby fingers off this I would Boimlerise TSW2 with it! But look forward to those that have the nouse to do stuff with it.
     
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    Wow I cant wait to see what people can do with this and how it developes.
     
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  21. Doomotron

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    It would be a bit disappointing if you didn't try. You've made some of the best mods for TSW, and this can make them a lot better!
     
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    It would be nice to see some partnerships between modders, this tool allows people who make models and assets for routes and locos to work with those who texture them and do artwork etc.
     
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  23. davidh0501

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    I’m very impressed.
    Mods make all the difference between a good route and an excellent one and this can only expand their potential.
    It was one of the great attractions to TS and I’m excited to see it grow for TSW.

    Even simple ones like LM’s sky mod makes me enjoy a route more than ones with the standard cardboard sky.
     
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    It begins... the slow descent into having to search twelve websites (all with their own logins) to find the assets you need to do a run from A to B
     
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  25. hand92

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    Good work and good luck for the future! New horizons for the future ...
     
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    Or... not. It's your choice. There is no agency being lost here.

    Cheers
     
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  27. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    OK, so someone releases a british route that I want and it takes assets from three other routes, two DTG and one third party
    Yes it's my choice but c'mon, surely everyone wants every asset available easily, concisely and completely, ie every route should have a full timetable, full scenarios and of course fully working and complete locos.
    Why anyone on this forum (ie those who constantly complain about DTGs content) would allow anything less is beyond me
     
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  28. Callum B.

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    Difficult to install or not, that is one more hypothetical option to drive that route than you would otherwise have. There is nothing being lost.

    Cheers
     
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  29. eihowa#6717

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    I like the Idea but it would be very nice to have a video, wich shows how to use and download it exactly, as it is quite hard to understand
     
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    Respect !!! Well done! Now, please, develop a detailed instruction, with a video, on how to work with this tool! Thanks!
     
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    I'm planning on creating a site with detailed information and lots of screenshots on how to use the editor in the next few weeks, so hopefully it'll become easier to use as there really isn't much information on how to install and use at the moment.
     
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  32. trainsimgaming1001

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    Until I read this, I thought somebody had leaked the Route Editor :(

    On the other hand, I do think there is a small chance we will get the route editor, mainly because of one email I got from Dovetail after I begged for the editor and this on Dovetails Own Website:
    We know from both closed door testing and working with experienced third-party developers that this isn’t an easy editor to use and until we have resolved these issues, we are not going to release anything more widely.

    Until they have resolved those issues implies that an Editor may happen if Dovetail find a way to fix it. The TS Editor does not use the Game Engine as the base, nor do the Livery Editor nor Scenario Planner. I think it would be really cool if we got a Route Creator, a Timetable editor, and an Upgraded Scenario Planner, which alongside the livery editor, could be used in conjunction together to make routes using locos we already have, which is a major aspect of many freeware TS classic add-ons. The fact that dovetail promised an editor, 3 years ago, proves that they could make or release one if they choose to.

    By the way, for those wondering, heres what the email said:
    Thanks for your email. We do not have a TSW editor suitable for public release at this time, though it is something we want to offer later on.

    I think this might mean in TSW 3 or whatever releases next year, we might get an Editor of some kind. Even only being able to lay track and stations using basic pre-built assets would be amazing
     
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    Also, the fact that he says there is no rail system, yet intreges me
     
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  34. trainsimcz

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    Just for quick info about your reply and DTGs editor. Not sure when you got the email from DTG but:

    "We do not have a TSW editor suitable for public release at this time, though it is something we want to offer later on." -> that was exactly the same reply which i got more then a year ago, looks like automatic generate excuse reply... as you can see nothing changed and they dont released editor and still using the same reply.
     
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    好遗憾,我来晚了。
     
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    Doesn’t matter. You’re here now.
     
  37. Purno

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    Agreed, which is why I didn't really dabble into the world of community created content for Train Simulator, other than a few Workshop routes.

    I once tried to investigate what I'd need to do to install one of the more popular Dutch routes the community made, but quickly gave up after a very long list of required third-party and community created content, some of which needed to be paid for.

    Now the community may be very inventive in creating all kinds of awesome things, but in the process keeping things easy for the average user isn't something that many community teams keep in mind, in my experience. Which is a real shame, because there are some very talented people making some pretty amazing stuff.

    Unless community-created content reduces the marked for first-party or third-party created content which is actually considerably more easy to install.
     
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  38. fakenham

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    Great work!
    I'm intrigued by the statement that we can start to build routes but without the rail network. Definitely interested at having a pop at this once some tutorials have surfaced.
    I guess this mod will be good for fictional routes, initally. For real world we really need Google map integration + DEM which I guess would come at a later date.
    Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.
     
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    Lets continue with some tutorials :)
    How to edit or create new formation and what is RVD?
    - first of all for full working formations you will need RVD files and formation files. RVD files are RailVehicleDefinition files which are part of every Loco. Each version of loco got own RVD file. With this editor you are able to edit RVD file but for formations its not really needed. But lets take a look what RVD is and how it looks like (just remember that messing with RVD can crash the game!):
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    http://www.trainsim.cz/obr5/rvd_file.jpg (if you cant see the picture in the thread then you can use that link)

    - RVD include links for Blueprint files where the game can find Model configuration and simulation setting. That part is better to leave alone if you dont know what are you doing
    - then there is part for substitution where you can find Geographic regions - that is where you usually setup regions for substitution - UK, DE, US, Germany, Freight, etc... those same tags needs to be in formation file if you want that loco to substitute there (we will get there later).
    - vehicle category - there you can choose what is the category (loco, passenger car, etc...) - again those are required for substitution as if you setup passenger car for loco then the loco will substitute for passenger car
    - powered axle count - again required for substitution - some formations can be setup only for 2 powered axle count, some for 4, etc... again that have to match with formation for substitution
    - part with Is Electric, Is Diesel, Is Steam will not make Electric loco Steam one if you just check Steam. That part is for menu to show only Electric locos, Steam or Diesel locos.
    - Bounds and Length is better not touch - those are generated from the original model
    - HUD and thumbnails - if you editing existing loco then leave HUD like it is, you can change thumbnails and all the text around
    - part with Scale - those are showed in the menu of the game when you choose each loco
    - Rail Vehicle Information section with check boxes - those are for substitution and for scenario planner
    - Commonnes weighting - how common you will see that loco in substitution
    - Friendly name - the name which is showed in the menu
    The other parts of the RVD file is better leave untouched.
    How to edit and save RVD file ?
    Normally you will just open it, change the stuff and save it. But we limited cooking in our editor only for uncooked data so are cooked ones are skipped. For proper editing you need to first duplicate the RVD file (CTRL+W), then delete the original one and rename the duplicated file back to the original one. That will uncook the RVD file. You can edit it and then it will cook again.
    If you are thinking of making new RVD file that you would like to have more loco versions in the game then you can. There is of course limit as the game dont see that file you will need to add it to some formation file - and now with that we are getting to the formation part :)
    How is formation file looks like:
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    (if you cant see the picture in the thread then you can use that link)

    formation file got 2 sections - first part is where you are adding vehicles (building part), second part is the same like in RVD file
    So lets take a look on that first part
    When you create (Right button -> Miscellaneous -> Data Asset -> Train Formation) new formation file you will see just Formations and that second part of the file (if you open existing formation then in that Formations section you will find already some RVD files or another formation files)
    - adding stuff into the formation ->you click on that + by the Array Elements, that will create new position for vehicle (the first vehicle is usually the one which is showed in the game menu so if you mess that up and you will add some wagon there first then in the menu you will see wagon :))
    - so for the first entry its always better to choose CabCar or Loco (choose always RVD files or some formation files where is for example single or double loco - of course you can even choose another whole formation there too - there is reason for that too - will get to that point later
    - adding another cars you will need to click again on that + like you did before
    What you can setup for each car in formation:
    - train entry - thats the car or another formation file
    - flipped - if the car suppose to be flipped (usually if you build formation with loco, wagons and in the end another loco - like ICE train - then last loco needs to be flipped
    - cargo loaded - if the train suppose to be already loaded - activating this will let you choose Cargo pre load.
    - Allow substitution - there is the part which will tell the game that stuff in this formation can be substituted with another stuff - and there you setup the rules (do you remember that RVD part ? :)
    - must match per vehicles categories - thats tricky part and its used only for whole formation substitution - like i wrote you in that part for Train Entry - you can add there whole formation - if you do that then in that must match per vehicles categories it will sub again only the same categories of vehicles
    - substitution probability - whats the chance for substitution - 1 means always, 0 never, 0.5 is like 50%
    - valid geographic region - that is the part which needs to match with RVD files for that loco or wagon
    - Required category - there you can limit your substitution for categories like loco, passenger car, etc...
    - must load cargo - you can limit your substitution to let substitute wagons which are able to load only some type of cargo
    - required parts - again just for limiting the substitution (for to get almost all locos or wagons there its better to dont add any limits there but but then for better substitution is better to setup some limits)
    - Block train -> how is the train build with that substitution... 0.1 is like almost every car is different, 1 will add couple of the same wagons before it will start adding different ones.
    - Rail Vehicle information part is section for the whole formation so there you can again setup if the formation suppose to be for planner, if that formation can substitute (if you setup that this formation can substitute then you should not use substitution in each train entry as that will make a huge mess)

    For editing existing formation there is the same rules like for RVD, you need to duplicate existing one, delete original one and then rename that duplicated one.
    What do you need to know before you start making new formations?
    - creating formation is easy but the game will not see it until you add that formation into some other existing formation
    - replacing formation for services (timetable mod) require have the same amounts of cars (so if formation in service mode got 5 cars then you need to have 5 cars too)
    - creating formation for scenario planner will require to create some scenario with templates formations and replace them with Wills Scenario Editor - the game will not see formations which are not cooked with the game
    - editing, replacing some formations can make the game (service mode or scenarios unplayable - its not common but some locos dont work with passenger cars, while you can use TAB key for open the doors AI is dumb and cant open the doors with TAB key so AI will block the platforms)

    Just remember all your changed files you need to cook, pak with unrealpak 4.26 (its included in that editor Engine\Binaries\Win64\) and add it to your TSW DLC folder where is other paks (if you are lost there then maybe somebody else will add here tutorial how to do that, i can cover that too but im mostly expecting that users which are going to use the editor got already some experience with modding for TSW). Enjoy and if you have some questions about formations you can just ask here :) There is already couple of users who knows how to work with formations so im sure me or them they will be happy to help you.
     
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    learning....
     
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    I'm interested to sew what people will do with this.
     
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    Reminds of the Good old OMSI2 Times, where you must Search 100+ Websites (most are Offline or need to Sign Up) to collect all Assets to play a simple Map...
    I still hate these Times...
     
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    I can relate to doing that in omsi. But at least it was worth it in the end
     
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    Unfortunately in TS1 it often ended in a game crash
     
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    Delta_Who Well-Known Member

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    The idea that all platforms should be equal, when realistically PC is the only one capable of advanced modification... is sorta ridiculous. So is the idea that DTG have some sort of better content management, when I have multiple variations of a Class 66, DB BR 146 and 185. And scenery (at least in earlier revisions) was bundled uniquely in each dlc. Dependencies might suck, but the alternative is bloatware.

    Personally, I'm very excited to seeing the existence of a community editor, and seeing what other content people can unlock.
     
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    I have no problem with dependencies so long as they're maintained, bug free and free to use by everyone else.
    This isn't the case in many 3rd party provider's cases... Look at Trent Valley on TS1 and the issues that caused
     
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    And it always ended with one piece of content missing that was only available from UKtrainsim which imposed ridiculously slow download speeds, leading to me abandoning the entire idea.
     
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    UKTS (run by DTG's Matt and I believe his dad) had a small charge to allow unlimited downloads at high speed. Pay £3 and download everything you could want and you're done
     
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    Well there is TSC modding site where is tons of stuff for TSW so i believe that users can upload mods there. Or even i have section on my page. Both sites are free, no download fees and they are fast for download. Then there is Mod Manager, no problem to send the Author some email with link for that download and he will include it in his Mod manager (or at least the page where to find it).
     
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    Well done CZ great news for PC users. Any chance you have considered a console friendly version or are the over heads just too much to consider? (Obviously this would be console users with key boards attached to their device from a modding perspective)
     

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